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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Feb 29, 2016 18:31:52
Anyone uses it? WTF.. I am stunned. I felt in serious deep love. Synth 1 was always my favourite synthesizer for years but Helm has overtrhown him from the throne. Helm is universes over the top, the true King of free synthesizers. Never I had soo much fun with this. You always end up in aboslutely psychedelic sounds, it's like dedicated to psytrance. The whole concept is a piece psychedelic art. It does magic and things no other can. I seriously love this one. I only can recommend to give it a serious try to all users in this forum.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
vipal
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Posted : Mar 2, 2016 22:18
cool thx, http://tytel.org/helm/
sounds interesting indeed           http://soundcloud.com/vipal
Dypden

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Posted : Mar 3, 2016 18:55
Cool, will definitely check it out!

Quick question though.. Might be a little of topic, but feel free to answer in a PM if so..
You mention Synth 1 as your favorite synth... I've heard great things about it, but when I tried it out all the sounds i made ended up sounding like the same sound! And it really wasn't a good sound! Any tips on how to get started making some nice sounds in Synth 1? Some specific parameters which are particularly nice?

I had a similar problem with my Virus TI until I was taught how to use it properly and I get killer sounds out of it now so I'm guessing it's kind of similar with Synth 1.
telekom youth
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Posted : Mar 4, 2016 17:47
How good is HELM for bass?           http://soundcloud.com/tactile-one
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Mar 14, 2016 17:38
Hi Dypden Synth 1 is a very basic synth, but a very handy one. Certainly you can do a whole track only using this synth. I love if for squelches and sounds I think are quite acidic, but it can do nice leads and pads too.
Some tips or how to start.. I suggest you to watch some kind of tutorials or read a good book about subtractive synthesis and study all the few parameteres that you can find in almost all subtractive synthesizers. Seriously, this is the best way to start. Than maybe I'd make a simple pad sound as for a begining, since its pretty simple using envelopes paramteres, long attack and long release, some LP fiter on your waveform, maybe some additional lfo to panorama for a bit movement, or tremolo with a traingle waveform and lfo for amp, maybe on slow 4 bar basis or whatever else. Than start making bass, kick, maybe some squelches - watch tutorials, try out, learn, enjoy.

@ telekom youth - I haven't try Helm for any bass so far. Sure you can do one as with any synth, but I'd say this synth is better for more complex moving sounds, not that special for a straight monophonic bass. Dunno if it even has retrigger function for stable oscilators.
For bass you'd need only few parameters, one oscilator, maybe some saw, use a reasonalbe low octave, more of a minimal envelope, a *bit* of decay etc, maybe a bit more than a bit. Maybe a bit of somehting else in the envelope. Some Lp filter + envelope extra for it - play with attack, decay and release to your taste/listen to the change in sound. I'd prefer for bass other synths.

          https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
telekom youth
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Posted : Mar 14, 2016 21:12
I downloaded it and installed it, i just haven't had time to mess with it much. I am however neck deep into Harmor at the moment, and theirs not much that synth can't do! I'll give this HELM thing a go soon though.           http://soundcloud.com/tactile-one
frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 16, 2016 00:20
@telekom youth

the best ones are the ones you know well, so you can depend on that when the time comes to get the creative juices flowing.

however, image line's harmor is still a fairly simple synth compared to other work horses such as Zebra 2, for example, that's got plenty more features. in other words, there's still plenty it can't do.
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Mar 19, 2016 16:06
+ 100

I also took a look at Harmor, and seems a rather limited synth, good for a start. Helm has much more to offer, basicaly the best thing is, that you can really automate every fucking detail, really anything. Even the waveforms through lfo or semitones parameter with lfo, or crossfading between two waveforms, or really anything. Things to automate that I havent seen anywhere else. It also has a great stepsequencer - you can put it as a automation source. - for example can makes a melody when put it to seitones and make steps related to semitones -) , the possiblies seem endless. It also has an interesting arp that you can put in any imaginary way as an modulation source or target. Nice synth.

Of course Zebra, Bazille, Ace etc offers different options, ways and possiblities, but that a quite different apporach, the modular. It might sound quite euphoric, how I described HELM but it makes crazy fun, there are new ways and methods to reach new sound, that are very simple to achieve and the funfactor is really huge.
          https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
telekom youth
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Posted : Mar 31, 2016 15:50
Just curious. But what exactly is "fairly simple" about Harmor? I mean, I'm sure compared to Zebra, everything is. I'd say its more intuitive than it is simple. I just like the fact that you can literally draw envelopes (time based) for every single parameter on it, makes creating weird crazy sequences in it really easy.
          http://soundcloud.com/tactile-one
frisbeehead
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Posted : Apr 1, 2016 21:51
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On 2016-03-31 15:50, telekom youth wrote:
Just curious. But what exactly is "fairly simple" about Harmor? I mean, I'm sure compared to Zebra, everything is. I'd say its more intuitive than it is simple.




That's all I meant, really.

Simple is not a bad thing, specially when it's intuitive - as you say. Many classics are like that.

Of course that'd be quite a stretch when talking about something with multi stage envelopes, image resynthesis and so forth, I give you that. Cheers



Dypden

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Posted : Apr 11, 2016 11:21
@TimeTraveller
Sure thing. I have actually read a book of subtractive synthesis so I know the principles, I just haven't had any luck on making sounds with Synth1. But I'm sure I haven't used enough time with it will give it another go soon!
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Apr 13, 2016 17:46
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On 2016-04-11 11:21, Dypden wrote:
@TimeTraveller
Sure thing. I have actually read a book of subtractive synthesis so I know the principles, I just haven't had any luck on making sounds with Synth1. But I'm sure I haven't used enough time with it will give it another go soon!


What kind of sound you would like to synthesize with Synth 1? Maybe we can help a bit.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden/cosmotropics
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