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Grrr kick and bass is driving me crazy!!!

icedice
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 18:20
Ok, here goes...
I have (like a lot of other newbies in here) been trying to archive a fat and sweet kick and bassline. And i seem to fail every time. And it is really starting to piss me off.
Here is a sample of my latest attempt, any tips/tricks is very appriciated.
Thanx.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0D57771F4F5C6F94
Domi
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 19:02
hey dude

what bass synth is this ??

don´t care i´ll help u fix this out..peace           https://soundcloud.com/twonzero-progressive/twonezero-alienpast-soon-on
icedice
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 19:04
I uesed Albino for this one.... have been trying with VB-1 alot but can´t seem to get it right....
icedice
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 19:15
With the drums on it sounds even worse...

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0D0B718833FCFBD3
xaBBu
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 19:56
Its actually not that bad. Maybe try to surgic eq that bassline so it sounds not so distorted (a little is ok but not too much.) Same for the kick, though the aim should be here to get more ompf into it... try a eq boost around 60 with 1.0 quant.

That should at least give it more drive ... also the highhats need to be either eqd more or maybe try to put specially the open one into another key (maybe a little higher key will help).

Hope this helps out!

PoM
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Posted : Sep 6, 2006 20:21
for the kick and bassline you re not far,a bit more eq and you need to improve the balance between the bass/medium and high,more bass it ll sound fatter.
mk47
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Posted : Sep 7, 2006 09:20
a frequency for everything and everything in its frequency
icedice
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Posted : Sep 7, 2006 12:32
I really appreciate you guys helping me out here, this is really driving me crazy....! I tried EQ´ing a litte more and also changed the length on som of the bass notes, compare this with basstest1.mp3 and tell me if im going the rigtght or the wrong way....

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=ADDDB249003C81D1
dtd
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Posted : Sep 7, 2006 13:01
want to post a clip of your kick/bass loop without any eq anywhere? just curious how your source sounds sound.

i have the impression that both the kick and bass are too much hi passed. i miss some low end.
icedice
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Posted : Sep 7, 2006 13:08
sure....
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=C67AC0A000EFEA89
no EQ at all, compressers and such is still on.

PoM
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Posted : Sep 7, 2006 14:30
maybe try to focus only on your eq,don t use compressors for now,bypass the eq everytime you do something with it to see if it s sound really better but the bass is too thin from the synth itself too sound fat just with a eq .good luck
PoM
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Posted : Sep 7, 2006 14:53
not a lot of vst have enough lowend without processing,i m sure you can do great bass with albino but for this style the es1 even with no eq ll sound killer,you can try the pentagone,tau pro,rapture, they all have more body.
AvS


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Posted : Sep 7, 2006 17:01
Hehe that kick sounds so much like the kick from IM - Tommy the bat.

dtd is absolutly right. The kick has no really low frequencies and you cant really boost it with eq since there are no frequencies to boost! Find another sample is the best thing to do or if you can change the pitch/envelope so it falls all the way down to to whatever freq you want. You could also use a vst like Waves Maxxass or PSP mixbass to generate some lows but still: find a new sample is the best way to do it. You *might* be able to make it abit less hard by cutting at the mid/lowmid freqs but i still think it would lack the lowend freqs.
I think the bass sound is ok but a bit thin. Also your programming is quite nice (basstest2.mp3) its just your selection of samples that could be better.
Fugga
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Posted : Sep 8, 2006 16:56
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/92942/forum/2/start/0

Hey man have u tried this??? it's all there.. what u hear in the demos is what you get. enjoy.. fugga smudge,,,,,,
icedice
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Posted : Oct 12, 2006 15:51
Ok, I have now made a new bassline and kick....
http://download.yousendit.com/F645FCF66EE4DFE3
Let´s hear some comments....

Thanx in advance.
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