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great kicks to sample

sy000321
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Posted : Jul 22, 2007 00:19
hi

i've learnt that people are sampling kicks from tracks and using them in their own productions.

i did do that like 6 or 7 years ago when i started producing, but eventually began to use samples from sample cds and more recently creating my own.

it might be a good exercise to use kicks from other producers. it might be a way of paying tribute to those we cherish and sometimes worship (lol) in the scene.

bet this thread will be flamed like no other with the "do your own stuff" meme hehehehe

the purpose of this post is to ask you all for briliant tracks were kicks can be sampled, i really cant remember a single track where the kick is played alone and so fit for a sampling.

also, how do you do to make kicks sampled from other producters fit your own tracks? eq and compress as usual or any other unusual techniques?

thanks and be gentle with the flamming


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bandarlog
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Posted : Jul 22, 2007 03:18
I never sample kicks out of songs. I do have some kicks that have goaproducers in their name so I can assume it's one of theirs. But most often those kicks have a hihat or something else on top which make them unusable. I do have some kickpacks from some producers (designed for production) and they are quite nice but have too much ehm... 'different personality' around them to use. I did use those kicks just for the higher sounds used in them (above 500hz) the real basspart was too hard to fit in.           http://www.soundcloud.com/bandarlog
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RenderingRebel
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Posted : Jul 22, 2007 03:43
i just use kicks from sample packs, sampling from tracks is pretty useless in my point of view
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Elad
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Posted : Jul 22, 2007 04:35
joujouka

this kick drum sounds like complete music to me when played solo with all its reverb



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Posted : Jul 24, 2007 00:31
ripping something that has already been "mastered".. no good.
you will end up with overcompressed shitty sounding kick.
knocz
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Posted : Jul 24, 2007 16:55
I remember someone posting a couple of years ago here in IsraTrance:

Get a microphone, turn up the volume, start recording the sound, then smack the mic against your table and voila! you have a kick (lololol)

My expirience has told me that it's not the sound of the kick that matters, neither the sound of the bass, but how they both work together... Sometimes I listen threw my kick samples and there are some I will never use... Later on I have a nice bass but it doesn't fit with the kick, and I might end up using that kick I said I never would use... But together with that bass it just rocks!!!

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Posted : Jul 25, 2007 13:42
Quote:

On 2007-07-24 16:55, knocz wrote:
I remember someone posting a couple of years ago here in IsraTrance:

Get a microphone, turn up the volume, start recording the sound, then smack the mic against your table and voila! you have a kick (lololol)




NO NO NO !!! save your mic's, i wouldent do that ...
sy000321
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Posted : Aug 4, 2007 22:11
thanks for the replys

tsabeat: i'll check joujouka asap

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splinter
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Posted : Aug 5, 2007 09:36
im sure it;s possible..

but you want to get the best quality possible..and if you cut it out of a track you're being a bitch.

and bitches don't get anywhere.

except in my pants
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sy000321
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 23:14
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On 2007-08-05 09:36, splinter wrote:
im sure it;s possible..

but you want to get the best quality possible..and if you cut it out of a track you're being a bitch.

and bitches don't get anywhere.

except in my pants




a comment like that makes you _the bitch_ in this thread


i dont feel the need to educate you, but listen around and you'll find sampled material from other artists tracks everywhere in electronic music.

anyone telling you otherwise, is making you _their _bitch.

take a look at this clip as an example, even if in my opinion daft punk is crap:





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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 9, 2007 23:26
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On 2007-08-05 09:36, splinter wrote:
if you cut it out of a track you're being a bitch.

and bitches don't get anywhere.

except in my pants




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12guga21


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Posted : Aug 11, 2007 04:02
i always try to make everything by myself.
thats why it takes so long to get a song finished. that's how you learn it.
in the beginning i used a lot of samples.
but now i'm enjoying it. i like to make things myself. it's not always that good. i'm just enjoying producing.

greetz and take care
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Mike A
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Posted : Aug 11, 2007 04:14
Doesn't matter really. When you use a kick you (hopefully) change it so much to fit your track, and then put a different bassline to go with it every time, so it loses the original sound. I've been using like 3 different kicks for the past year, and they sound different in each track.
IMO no one's gonna blame you for stealing their kick drum
sy000321
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Posted : Aug 11, 2007 04:52
@colin:


@12guga21: that's the point. i'm just enjoying producing and loving every possibility available.

i would take some time to look at some electronic music artists that work only with sampled material and still do genuine stuff.

there's more than one way to learn and millions of ways to do it, they would most certainly say.


@Mike A: looks like Splinter will


just for the record. the last time i used a kick from a track must have been around 2001/2002, cant remember the track name or artist but i just had to try that kick in my work.

i think the idea of doing it again came while i was in boom 2006, i remember listening to so many "isolated" kicks without other elements playing at the same time that i thought to myself... hey.. i would like to have that one

cant stop thinking about producing when im at a party/festival

i've been doing my own kicks for a long time, but the idea of comparing my own work to others is always a great way to learn

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