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Good tracklist in your Dj set and you are SET
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Basilisk
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Posted : Dec 5, 2008 23:58
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Simply playing a bunch of hits in a set style is really missing the point (or potential) of trance mixing. I find it most interesting to mix between styles--from tribal progressive up to darkpsy and down into full-on for instance. Digging out the tracks that don't really fit any particular sub-style is also an interesting approach, and the same goes for making unlikely mixes that somehow transmute or reinterpret the energy state of the set and the party as a whole. The basic idea here is that DJing can be tremendously creative--or you can just play it safe like most people do. Frankly, it is a bit dull if you just stick to one style and a bunch of proven killers; going out on a limb and trying something kind of drastic can be a lot more fun and interesting. Sometimes you have to let it flow; other times you want to orchestrate a surprising twist. Forget the "peak energy" model of programming that boils down to dropping killer after killer. Consider the "peaks, valleys, and plateaus" model instead, where you work with the energy of the space to forge a dynamic storyline.
I would also add that there is a kind of middle path to take with mixing that accentuates interesting aspects of the music without interfering with its presentation. Most modern psytrance already features drops and hooks and strange effects at the end of key sequences anyway--sometimes the best thing you can do is let the artist's synthetic voice come through loud and clear. Psytrance is generally quite full and complete--contrast this with certain forms of minimal techno which certainly benefit from intricately layered mixing and fancy technique. Ultimately the best approach for me is what I think of as "adaptive" mixing; a mixing style that suits the music you are playing: drops and cuts for full-on and electro, a steady hand for progressive, harmonic mixing where melodies reign supreme, heavy-handed crossfader work for techtrance, and so on. Subtlety where required and grandstanding where appropriate. In essence: creative, intelligent, and conscientious mixing to honour the sacred space of the dance floor and the outward receptivity of the many minds participating in the trance experience.
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Hero #1
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 00:00
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Very well put !!
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Krod20
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 00:03
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But who said anything about "HITS" I read all the post and there is no mention of that word. GOOD or GREAT TRACKS dont have to be Hits
and mostly likely are Not Hits
But actually if you think about it may be that what is missing sometimes to put one or two anthen HITS. Because you can relate to them this is why are hits right? |
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 00:08
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I play music I enjoy and take the person on a journey with it. Where I live I'm know for this style and so my bookings are based around it.
A good and large collection of quality allows you to eplore the sounds and style to make something unique.
There are many styles incorporated into the many genres of psy trance, and these can e used to build a story or a trip.
I think it is much more important to create a fun and danceable journey than to take a set to serious and make it some kind of so called spiritual journey.
Each to their own but my sets are purely focussed on creat high energy positive dancing experiences and to expose the listener to a multitude of sounds and moods.
But quality in the sound is most important for me, hence why I still prefer to buy cd where possible  |
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Elad
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 00:25
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20 "hits" is far from good dj set
a real good dj set is full story , and must be top notch skilled for that , as well be able to get abit more then what most people can buy in shops (technicly not a must) www.sattelbattle.com
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 00:53
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pffft the whole playing unreleased killah thing is so dumb. |
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aXis
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 05:05
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mix in tracks in same scale.
Fade in out when u change scale.
Eq simmilar freqs. Play wit bass Eq. Add sounds from synth, while ur at it.
Then play 2 tracks simultaneously, play both intros 1 by 1 , then the climax , and then the ending u can pull in tracck number 3,4,5. |
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 11:20
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imho mixing in the same scale could turn out boring in the very end, but building the set and picking the trax in a harmonic way is great to keep the flow and make a buildup/breakdown.
Also imho its not only about matching the kicks but also keeping a structure in the set, to keep the trax in phase, mixing bars, syncing breaks and keeping the trax flow together as long as possible, maybe bring it in with a nice effect and playing with the eq and try to make something new out of allready existing trax, like the kick could fit perfect with the snare from another or the melody from a third..
And aslong as the music is good it doesnt really matter if its unreleased or not.. just becouse a track is released it doesnt mean everyone knows it. it might still be new to 70% of the dancefloor but it doesnt mean its better. Playin classics that people recognize could really turn the dancefloor upsidedown in an awsome way.
most important is to practise practise and practise, not only 1 style but with a wider perspective so you learn how to handle different kinds of music and learn how to read the crowd and be able to make some buildups different dancefloors.
Another important thing is, KNOW YOUR MUSIC  |
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Braindrop
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 11:31
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On 2008-12-05 23:58, Basilisk wrote:
Simply playing a bunch of hits in a set style is really missing the point (or potential) of trance mixing. I find it most interesting to mix between styles--from tribal progressive up to darkpsy and down into full-on for instance. Digging out the tracks that don't really fit any particular sub-style is also an interesting approach, and the same goes for making unlikely mixes that somehow transmute or reinterpret the energy state of the set and the party as a whole. The basic idea here is that DJing can be tremendously creative--or you can just play it safe like most people do. Frankly, it is a bit dull if you just stick to one style and a bunch of proven killers; going out on a limb and trying something kind of drastic can be a lot more fun and interesting. Sometimes you have to let it flow; other times you want to orchestrate a surprising twist. Forget the "peak energy" model of programming that boils down to dropping killer after killer. Consider the "peaks, valleys, and plateaus" model instead, where you work with the energy of the space to forge a dynamic storyline.
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On 2008-12-06 11:20, Dennis the menace wrote:
imho mixing in the same scale could turn out boring in the very end, but building the set and picking the trax in a harmonic way is great to keep the flow and make a buildup/breakdown.
Also imho its not only about matching the kicks but also keeping a structure in the set, to keep the trax in phase, mixing bars, syncing breaks and keeping the trax flow together as long as possible, maybe bring it in with a nice effect and playing with the eq and try to make something new out of allready existing trax, like the kick could fit perfect with the snare from another or the melody from a third..
And aslong as the music is good it doesnt really matter if its unreleased or not.. just becouse a track is released it doesnt mean everyone knows it. it might still be new to 70% of the dancefloor but it doesnt mean its better. Playin classics that people recognize could really turn the dancefloor upsidedown in an awsome way.
most important is to practise practise and practise, not only 1 style but with a wider perspective so you learn how to handle different kinds of music and learn how to read the crowd and be able to make some buildups different dancefloors.
Another important thing is, KNOW YOUR MUSIC
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V3NOM
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Posted : Dec 6, 2008 11:51
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yup knowing the music is most important. know the breaks, the build ups. now when I listen to new music or even old stuff I always listen to here which other tracks i know it will fit with and for the best part to combine them.
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