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Good tips for mixing Chill out and Dub
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John
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Posted : Nov 8, 2006 23:34
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On 2006-11-08 22:07, MercuryFall wrote:
Everything is pretty much summed up now, I can add that I love to take some notes on the tracks I have in my CD case so I know what fits. Not like furtur suggests ( that would be too much work and much less fun anyway  ), but more like 'dub', 'soundscape', 'loungy', 'straight kick', and other indications like 'indian vocals', 'flute', 'acoustic gtr', ya know, stuff like that, it helps me a big deal to keep the flow going
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or "weirdy brazillian shit with indian samples" - my note for a Pedra Branca track!!
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Nov 9, 2006 13:46
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Hihihi... 
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punkah
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Posted : Nov 21, 2006 16:25
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one hint for beatmatched dub mixing...
unlike steppahs, a bunch of roots and psy dub pieces doesn`t have an audible first kick/BassDrum. sometimes because the bass is so fat over it, sometimes because they are simply not there.
On the other hand, you have really snappy snares and "in your face" rhythm guitars or organs...
So if you wanna venture into the wicked world of beatmatching dub, try to cue the snare -usually @ the second beat- or the guitars (wich are always on the counter-tempo).
Keep in mind that this ain`t no easy task, and that is way easier and equally functional to mix dub simply by using fx/delay or the clean vocals at the beginning of the track and the intro/outro technic. But once you got to know your songs better (in other words, once you can`t stand your CD case no more), you will realize that a big chunck of dub music sits in the 70-80 Bpms range, and that is possible to sync some tracks for nonstop bass therapy. As long as you make it perfect and pay attention not only to tempo and Key, but to the flow...
Actually, flow is something above any technique when it comes to chill out mixing... |
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entalamoska
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Posted : Nov 22, 2006 01:57
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One thing that really helped me when i started was to listen to mixes from other Djs, there are so many ways to make a good mix...
The flow for sure is the key, sometimes to achieve that the beatmatching is great but not the onlyway for sure.
its important to listen to a lot of music and feel their soul.
There are tracks that sometimes seem to be made to match others.
the essential is to know well the tracks you like and experiment, probably the beatmatching is not recomended for now, but explore, experiment, but i siriouslly advise you to record your mixes and listenen to them and take some conclusions.
For me was and still is to listen to other djs mixes, even if the "style" is not your cup of tea.
To record your mixes you just need a sound card in you computer, and use the cards recording software, then connect the rec output from the mixer to the sound input of the PC, and the output of the PC to one of the lines of the mixer (so that you can listen to the mixs).
Its very simple, i use a very simple software from my creative sound card.
To upload a mix www.rapidshare.de (for example)
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clovisfilho
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Posted : Nov 22, 2006 02:47
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Thanks a lot everyone once again for sharing the knowledge...I am working hard and actually concentrating more in learn more about the style, the musics, the artistis...trying to open my mind to come out with something creative.
Not in a hurry at all and every minute spent at it has been a minute of pleasure! 
Smile with your soul! |
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Kane
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Posted : Nov 27, 2006 00:00
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I suggest you keep the music going  |
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Aida Noridania
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Posted : Nov 29, 2006 14:25
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the hardest part is to keep the melodies in tune with each other imho to me a good chillset needs that even far more then beatmatching... of course that depends mostly on what you play, but to me most good sets don't always need a perfect beatmatch. the story is more important here as like been said "it's about the travel you offer to people coming from a dancefloor and wanting to sit down relaxed and calm
it all depends on playing the right track on the right time and doing what you truely feel but well the rest i will be repeating the other peeps so i ain't gonna do that |
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pants!
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Posted : Dec 13, 2006 15:56
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what do you do when you're playing a track that goes for like 10 minutes and you've got the next one cued? stand around (looking sexy)? |
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clovisfilho
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Posted : Dec 13, 2006 20:05
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I would say you enjoy the music just like everyone else.
Smile with your soul! |
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clovisfilho
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Posted : Dec 13, 2006 20:40
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Also keep an eye on the crowd to see whether you should keep the next planned tracks or change it.
Overall, have fun while you play.
Smile with your soul! |
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damon
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Posted : Dec 14, 2006 08:16
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On 2006-12-13 15:56, pants! wrote:
what do you do when you're playing a track that goes for like 10 minutes and you've got the next one cued? stand around (looking sexy)?
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Smoke/drink/have fun
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BrettFromTibet
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Posted : Dec 14, 2006 09:46
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I mix chillout depending on how chill the scene is. If it's just a few people lying around and spacing out, then I am more casual about fading out and about however I feel like it.
If the party is packed and bumping, the space is getting hot, and people are listening and dancing - I put a lot more effort into making it sound seamless and smooth by lining the beats up close to each other...
I have experimented with trance style beatmatching, and I personally think it is too hard and unchill to do with most downtempo - which is often breakbeats of different tempos, basslines & drum compositions. I end up making weird selections (looking for 4x4 kicks) and going pitch tweak crazy or driving the flow too hard.
Instead I aim for "beat lining " - lining up two beats so that one starts a split second after the other one ends. But it's important to time it so melodic intros and outros can wash over the beats on the new track before the kick in - or else it will sound too quick and forced.
To get this kind of effect, I spent a lot of time cuing and I keep a clear head.
I make a good selection throw in the next CD. I fast-foward to the end of the track and listen for then the beat DIES. I remember it, or else I have marked it down on my track card before. When it's time to fade a new track, I know, for instance that the beat will die a 00'37". Then I cue up the new track to, say, 20" before the beat kicks in. When the outgoing track gets down to 00'57" (20 seconds before it dies) - I hit play and fade it in fairly quick.
That way...the intro melodies come in and a split seconds that the outgoing beat dies, a new one comes in.
Boom...!
Then all of the outro melodies cascade over the beats of the new track nicely and can be faded away - and it sounds like two tracks are slowly smoothed together, rather than quick cut or spliced.
It takes a certain kind of zen - but if I am focused ("dialed-in") I can consistently play beats of different tempos without trainwrecks or blank sagging spaces in the tempo and energy.
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And what to do when there is 7'21" to go before there is another track to work with?
Watch the audience carefully and tune into them - like they are flowers you are cultivating - carefully observing the sonic stimulus they respond to. Sometimes then I metaprogram a parallel universe of paradisical goodness - and project it out onto them. I like to envision scenes of nature, angels, paradise, eclipses, corals, outer space VIVIDLY - project it with love out into the chill room. I let the vision unfold and and feelings guide the flow of the music and the selections.
A properly cultivated chill space with glowing people, crystas, and art can creates a truly profound inner atmopshere. Ambient dreams and deep meditations at the control panel are some of the most meaningful moments I have ever had
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Gunter
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Posted : Dec 15, 2006 02:51
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| Watch the audience carefully and tune into them - like they are flowers you are cultivating - carefully observing the sonic stimulus they respond to. Sometimes then I metaprogram a parallel universe of paradisical goodness - and project it out onto them. I like to envision scenes of nature, angels, paradise, eclipses, corals, outer space VIVIDLY - project it with love out into the chill room. I let the vision unfold and and feelings guide the flow of the music and the selections. |
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This is one of the most awesome statements I have ever read on isratrance ... |
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intrees
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Posted : Dec 15, 2006 16:12
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On 2006-12-15 02:51, Gunter wrote:
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This is one of the most awesome statements I have ever read on isratrance ...
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Yes, that has to be one of the best post here Brett
- - It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice... - -
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bluespectralmonkey
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Posted : Dec 20, 2006 07:22
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yes but we all know that is the truth that does not need t o be told... thats the secrets of the boss chill djs hehehe
the blessings and the gifts we have to share in our sets do not need to be named.... years of experience in chilling will send you off on your path, your style will develop with trial and errors of mixing and playing tunes you love to people you love. our deep visions and experience comes thru our manipulation of the knobs and faders, just like it does for those who produce the amazing music we play out.
ive found in my recent productions that being calm and patient is more profound than being productive and having many tracks finished,.... i am happy to have spent the time working on sounds! expect my future dj sets to be sprinkled with original tracks!
boom
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