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good mastered albums till now in psychedelic trance

Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 21:24
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On 2010-04-06 21:05, Maine Coon wrote: So, why not finish the job by yourself?



When you make a track, the sound of your studio will affect the sound of your final mix, eg. if your studio room is very reflective you will probably hear too much high end in your mixes, causing you to make a track which is lacking in highs. Likewise, small studios with small speakers often do not handle bass frequencies well, leading to either too much or too little bass in the track. Many productions suffer from this kind of problem - it's one of the most common I find. If you then master your track in this same room, you will be attempting to correct for your room using the same room that caused the problems in the first place, which will most likely compound the issue. In addition it's easier for someone unconnected with the track to be objective about its sound; if it's meant for any kind of release it can often be better for the sound of the track to let someone else put the final touches on it.

Having said that many artists do a great job of mastering their own material.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
www.facebook.com/OOOD.music :: www.soundcloud.com/oood
Contact for bookings/mastering - colin@oood.net
Shiranui
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Posted : Apr 6, 2010 21:53
Why not just have someone else mix it in the first place then?
Enertopia
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Posted : Apr 7, 2010 01:20
I have been doing the masterings for Warp Brain Records, so far so good on the results, by the way, if anybody intersted PM me for masterings, will be happy to work with you, and of course, I might save you some cash and give you a good result           www.myspace.com/enertopiapsy
dj chichke
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Posted : Apr 7, 2010 19:14
did anybody hear about Argaman?
i think he did the mastering to u-recken and
u-recken has great sound.
ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Apr 7, 2010 19:38
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On 2010-03-26 15:30, disco hooligans wrote:
Henry is the best, if you got the cash.
If not, Colin does a great job.




Do u mean Henry from Sonic Vista?

If so, indeed it's a great job! I was amazed how my track sounded very wide at mid/highs.

But in my little experience, when master eng. knows what u like it's the best! I had a track mastered from Charles aka Solead, and it was great for me. Must be cause I've always liked Charles's fat and analog sound, and he kind of knew my weakness. Also he's a very nice guy to deal with.

I must confess that I'm very curious about Colin's work since his endless tips&patience on foruns, specially here now, and psymusic.

I really like Silicon Sound's mastering for the feelling, and also Domestic's for the "big in tha face" sound.

At the end, I don't think there will be the best master eng. It would be the most suitable for your sound and taste.           LOADING...
Enertopia
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Posted : Apr 8, 2010 03:00
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On 2010-04-07 19:14, dj chichke wrote:
did anybody hear about Argaman?
i think he did the mastering to u-recken and
u-recken has great sound.



Argaman is really good!! he mastered my latest album "Divine", Im very very pleased.           www.myspace.com/enertopiapsy
Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 8, 2010 17:09
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On 2010-04-06 21:24, Colin OOOD wrote:
When you make a track, the sound of your studio will affect the sound of your final mix, eg. if your studio room is very reflective you will probably hear too much high end in your mixes, causing you to make a track which is lacking in highs.



Thanks, it does make sense.

I still don’t understand the whole concept of a studio. There is so much I see in magazines and on this forum about room treatment and proper speakers (for some reason called “monitors”) and proper stands for those proper speakers etc. Why bother? I don’t understand what’s wrong with having just a pair of very good earphones. Once you are happy with the sound in your earphones, you can burn the track on a CD and play it on your boombox, in your car, in your friend’s club etc. – just to check that it sounds good outside your office. What am I thinking wrong here?
PoM
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Posted : Apr 8, 2010 17:35
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On 2010-04-07 19:38, SMS wrote:

At the end, I don't think there will be the best master eng. It would be the most suitable for your sound and taste.




agree ,it s a lot about taste and knowing what sound you are after to explain it well to the engineer.(if he have the tools to bring that sound to your tracks )

beeing a mastering engineer has become the new " i run a digital label" lot of inexperienced engineers that just runa chain of preset plugins and call that mastering on their 500 euro monitors.
vision dream
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Posted : Apr 8, 2010 19:56
infected mushroom. all of them sounds great




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Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 13, 2010 04:57
I think I kinda get it now - the whole bit about having a studio and proper monitors etc. (thanks to the thread about earphones). But what Colin said still leaves me unsettled: the mastering person will make the album sound best for his mastering studio. So, do people make separate versions of their tracks (or even albums) - one for an iPod, one for a dance club, one for an open-air party etc.? Or you just know tricks to make it sound OK in different environments?
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 13, 2010 05:11
The idea behind mastering is to make the track sound the best it can in as many different environments and on as many different playback systems as possible. Whilst separate versions for eg. radio play and home listening are not unknown, in the psytrance scene there's generally only one version. Mastering studios tend to have very high-quality monitors in very well-adjusted rooms, which means that there is (hopefully) very little colouring between source and listener; this helps the mastering engineer to tweak the track safe in the knowledge that if he's hearing something amiss with the tune, it's in the tune rather than in his monitoring system.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
www.facebook.com/OOOD.music :: www.soundcloud.com/oood
Contact for bookings/mastering - colin@oood.net
Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 13, 2010 05:48
Thanks, I think I got it now. You produce the "golden standard version" of a track/album.
It sounds good on you studio's super-equipment. But it will also sound good elsewhere because you know those other environments. So, you set the dynamic range that is large enough to be appreciated in a quiet room but narrow enough for all the parts to be heard in an outdoor party. And the same with frequencies: leave enough bass to feel it in a club but not so much that it will rip car speakers. Something like that?
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