| Author
|
good mastered albums till now in psychedelic trance
|
Wizack Twizack
Wizack Twizack
Started Topics :
239
Posts :
3486
Posted : Mar 27, 2010 17:37
|
i have actually 3 diffrent guys mastered 1 track of me. From that point its very easy to see who does the best job.
my personal experience with the best mastering engeneers would def be Colin Oood.
but there is few others that are really talented from what i heard, like domestic, silicon sound and few others.
also like bombax said xabbu is very very good at this, very analogish results and rich sound.
cheers!
  For Contact & Bookings:
Wizack_Booking@hotmail.com
www.soundcloud.com/wizack_Twizack
New Album Out: Wizack Twizack - IV (Ovnimoon Records 2011) http://www.beatport.com/#release/wizack-twizack-iv/387698 |
|
|
|
MARGHERITA
Master Margherita
Started Topics :
156
Posts :
1442
Posted : Mar 28, 2010 16:13
|
|
mubali
Mubali
Started Topics :
71
Posts :
2219
Posted : Mar 28, 2010 17:36
|
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-24 15:06, PoM wrote:
after listening some noisia tunes it s hard to find some fullon well mixed (it s not about mastering)... just was i was talking earlier, fast tempo kbbb bassline on one low note is just not possible to get a fucking huge sounds or maybe need lot lot of work (i think it s a reason why lot of dark psy don t sound that great well mastered or not)
|
|
I completely disagree with this statement. To avoid a flame war I'll just say that no matter what the speed of the music, it's very difficult to polish turds. Not all stuff is poorly produced mind you and I have heard some poorly mastered minimal techno before that made me run out of the room.
Back to the topic at hand... Colin has mastered one of my tunes and I really liked the job he did.
I also enjoy Onkel Dunkel's mastering for it's respect to keeping dynamics and not making it a squashed chocolate bar
I used to buy into this whole loudness war thingy, but the more I spend time listening to music, the more I appreciate the dynamics that the song naturally has... if you want it louder, turn up the damn gain. this loudness war thing is for djs that have no idea how to perceive loudness when they mix tracks so they end up wanting not to touch the gain knob at all...
An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. |
|
|
|
elastic_plastic
Re-Boot
Started Topics :
112
Posts :
1612
Posted : Mar 29, 2010 13:43
|
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-26 16:14, Kasmakaja wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-23 15:18, elastic_plastic wrote:
bombax vs illegal machines - between sanity and madness and Echo Vortex records va - freaks united
undoubtedly some of the best mastered cds !!!
|
|
hui happy u liked the result,
i was also more than happy when i heard the results.
the tracks where mastered at
http://www.myspace.com/wiredmasters
they have insane equipment and great experience. i think most important is that they take time to listen to the whole track while processing. alot of mastering guys in psytrance seem like just looping a small region and apply their chain what will cause a disaster.
another quality guy for mastering is
xabbu this guy is more than experienced and knows what he is doing.check him out
|
|
hope to hear more music from ur end... keep up the good work.... all the best bro  |
|
|
|
alientrancesistor
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
31
Posts :
560
Posted : Mar 29, 2010 13:47
|
are there any albums where after the last track of the cd there is a gap of one minute and some random sounds or music comes up for like 30 secds or some thing like taht and then the cd ends..just to give a twist and bit of laugh..
|
|
|
|
Eleusene
Started Topics :
4
Posts :
117
Posted : Mar 29, 2010 13:55
|
Tim Schuldt!
I listened to several mixdowns and his masterings of these albums were always excellent.
|
|
|
|
PoM
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
162
Posts :
8087
Posted : Mar 29, 2010 15:14
|
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-28 17:36, mubali wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-24 15:06, PoM wrote:
after listening some noisia tunes it s hard to find some fullon well mixed (it s not about mastering)... just was i was talking earlier, fast tempo kbbb bassline on one low note is just not possible to get a fucking huge sounds or maybe need lot lot of work (i think it s a reason why lot of dark psy don t sound that great well mastered or not)
|
|
I completely disagree with this statement. To avoid a flame war I'll just say that no matter what the speed of the music, it's very difficult to polish turds. Not all stuff is poorly produced mind you and I have heard some poorly mastered minimal techno before that made me run out of the room.
|
|
have you tried to do minimal or progressive trance?when doing kbbb with low bassline note and fast tempo i can t reach the same sound quality and it need a lot more work . just the bassline used and the kick interaction will be a big part of the sound quality ,in my experience the more it s low and fast the more it s hard to get it right when using kbbb (and the more it s fast the more the kick is short and the bassline notes too ,short and sounding huge dont go well toghehter in the low end, a short kick will always sound thiner than the same kick with a big tail for example ) |
|
|
|
Yidam
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
144
Posts :
3171
Posted : Mar 29, 2010 16:00
|
Xabbu is awesome for technical and detailed production. Adds that whole effect where frequencies just sit lovely and layerd right on top of each other. Thick low end for the groove, rock solid midrange and a delicate but precise high end. Would love to see what that does to other genres. For new gen psytrance and night-psy... it's the best I've heard. Check out his masters on 2to6
http://www.2to6records.com
Kri is another. One of the best people in the psy-scene to work with... very helful through the entire process...and he cooks it to your perfection. http://www.audiovalve.org/
|
|
|
|
mubali
Mubali
Started Topics :
71
Posts :
2219
Posted : Mar 30, 2010 13:19
|
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-29 15:14, PoM wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-28 17:36, mubali wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-24 15:06, PoM wrote:
after listening some noisia tunes it s hard to find some fullon well mixed (it s not about mastering)... just was i was talking earlier, fast tempo kbbb bassline on one low note is just not possible to get a fucking huge sounds or maybe need lot lot of work (i think it s a reason why lot of dark psy don t sound that great well mastered or not)
|
|
I completely disagree with this statement. To avoid a flame war I'll just say that no matter what the speed of the music, it's very difficult to polish turds. Not all stuff is poorly produced mind you and I have heard some poorly mastered minimal techno before that made me run out of the room.
|
|
have you tried to do minimal or progressive trance?when doing kbbb with low bassline note and fast tempo i can t reach the same sound quality and it need a lot more work . just the bassline used and the kick interaction will be a big part of the sound quality ,in my experience the more it s low and fast the more it s hard to get it right when using kbbb (and the more it s fast the more the kick is short and the bassline notes too ,short and sounding huge dont go well toghehter in the low end, a short kick will always sound thiner than the same kick with a big tail for example )
|
|
I have made some minimal attempts and honestly, I don't like a straight rolling bassline in stuff that slow. It's a bit boring, if you're gonna do slow stuff give it some funk in the bassline. getting a really funky bassline is bit more difficult at faster speeds, but anything up to 150 can be possible. The faster I go over 150 the higher I like my basslines to be because of course each note has a short period of time to make it's clear impression. But I can still do a very effective C or D bassline at up to 152 bpm.
I just really disagree with the blanket bad production statement. For sure there's poorly produced anything. Doesn't mean that it's because of the style.
An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. |
|
|
|
elastic_plastic
Re-Boot
Started Topics :
112
Posts :
1612
Posted : Mar 31, 2010 11:54
|
|
tryambaka is also doin mastering now.... i think its called big bellies studios or somethin..... and imm sure his mastering job is as good as his production |
|
|
|
elastic_plastic
Re-Boot
Started Topics :
112
Posts :
1612
Posted : Apr 6, 2010 07:53
|
|
has any one experiened mixing two mastered tracks from different tracks/cds and still the mix sounds like shit due to the poor mastering??? or its jus my ears? haha |
|
|
|
Colin OOOD
Moderator
Started Topics :
95
Posts :
5380
Posted : Apr 6, 2010 13:01
|
|
Maine Coon
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
12
Posts :
1659
Posted : Apr 6, 2010 20:49
|
Quote:
|
On 2010-03-29 15:14, PoM wrote:
in my experience the more it s low and fast the more it s hard to get it right when using kbbb
|
|
I hear this in some dark tracks all the time but I keep thinking that it’s not really a producer’s fault. I think it has very little to do with your skills and a lot to do with the mathematical truth: the shorter the note, the less we can discern its frequencies (pitch and timbre), the more it sounds like an undetermined blip, until it becomes a click. And the lower a note’s pitch, the more this becomes a problem.
This Uncertainty Principle is universal – Heisenberg just adopted it to quantum physics. Well, this is my dilettante understanding of things at least – sure, somebody like Pavel could explain it better.
|
|
|
|
Maine Coon
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
12
Posts :
1659
Posted : Apr 6, 2010 21:05
|
Can somebody help me clear this confusion in my head about mastering?
First of all, I am just learning the terms and am not sure if I got it right.
I understand that mastering is about the overall loudness, dynamic range and frequency balance. I also gather that mixing is about fitting and balancing all the “instruments” in your “orchestra”; composing is like “strategic planning” of the track; “arranging” is giving each “player” in your “orchestra” a part to play. And producing means arranging plus mixing. Do I understand those things correctly?
Now, here is what puzzles me. You already went through troubles of composing, arranging and fitting together all the parts of your tune. You are the only one who knows how it should sound. And you know how to use EQs, compressors, gates etc. So, why not finish the job by yourself?
|
|
|
|
Shiranui
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
116
Posts :
1219
Posted : Apr 6, 2010 21:15
|
So from what I understand there are three major components to mastering
Highpassing out the rumble... what is the point of this? Does rumble actually do anything bad? Can't you not even detect frequencies that low, nor your speakers reproduce it?
Multiband compression... why is this done on the master and not on the individual instruments?
Limiting... I just don't see a point to unless your music is going to be played back on substandard equipment. |
|
|
|
