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Good "Cheap" Mixing consoles?!
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Dec 23, 2013 13:21
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probably no one, but maybe someone has used or worked on such flagships - especially on Aurus.
I might have the chance.. that's why I'm asking. I'm just curious, since I literary cannot find the price for Stagetec Aurus and I if you wanna know everything about something you also wanna know what it is worth.ehm what does it cost is more concrete.
(Didnt want to start a new thread and found only this one about consoles=I know this is not a cheap console, probably one of the most expensives)
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OzMike
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Posted : Dec 23, 2013 13:41
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On 2013-12-23 11:10, Taisto wrote:
Yeah i call, and raise another 18k 
Lets put golden minimoog with diamonds on the line..
Seriously, who from our poor hippie community can afford those 'cheap' 18k stuff, for just having some fun.. 
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Well maybe it's time to grow the f#ck up, cut the dreads, kill the dope & get a real job eh? I hate my job, 16 hours a day of soul sucking government work. BUT I have a kick ass home I'm about to move in to & I can buy the kind of hardware you hippies wank to.
If you really want it you'll work for it, otherwise suck it up & stop being a whiney princess in pink!!
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 23, 2013 16:14
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if you want really cheap , try the old small mackie, the one before vlz preamp i don t remember the name right now..daft punk and many french artist use (ed) it in techno/ house scene for the color ...some still have one next to neve or api and stuff like that..
it s maybe a bit garbage dunno but might worth a try i know some really enjoy it  it s supposed to be one of the very few good sounding mackie desk and that can overdrive nicely .
prise is rising.. but you might find one for 100 or 200 euros if it didn t jump much in price since last time i checked, 1 year ago or a bit more..it s 8 channel if i right |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Dec 23, 2013 21:33
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you probably mean mackie 0v96 one of the most sold console in history.
I know it in and out and would not recommend it to anybody, it has nice analog eq's though..but only additive eqing imo.you can get it cheap though and have a nice introductions to consoles.
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PoM
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Posted : Dec 23, 2013 22:21
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i m not sure it s this one mate..(do yo mean the yamaha piece of crap ? in the old day at first we tought it s good a friend add one but it sound like shit next to great sounding console ) it s the micro serie but the one before the vlz pre that sound crap if i remember? , it s very old.. i don t remember the exact model would have to check but on the micro serie price increase ridicously?? i was sure i should have bought one when it was costing less than 100 euros.. just cause it s popular today to sound like what some famous techno/house producer sounded in the past , old daft punk and french house stuff i have seen one at 350 euros..
was looking for a christmas present that i really need and that would be welcom..will report if i find one cheap in good shape.. |
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Taisto
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Posted : Dec 24, 2013 08:15
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On 2013-12-23 13:41, OzMike wrote:
I can buy the kind of hardware you hippies wank to.
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Of course we wank for the stuff we love, but if you have money to buy 18k minimixer on top of everything else, maybe i should move to your neighbour hood.. or if not me, you should consider of renting it for those 16 hours for someone who could actually use it, or even for whole day, because you got to sleep also..
I'v done pretty shitty work too for the mighty money, and got everything i have now, but no more my friend no more
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OzMike
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Posted : Dec 24, 2013 09:13
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That's the dream. In building a semi-pro studio in my new basement of the next 5 years. Then sit at home & rent it out. Also maybe get in to mastering if I have the ears for it.
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sento
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Posted : Dec 24, 2013 11:03
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Posted : Dec 24, 2013 12:31
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The Soundcraft Delta series are a good bang for the buck. They are supposed to have really low crosstalk which makes them sound wide.
They are also modular meaning that if a channel craps out, you can just unscrew it and keep on going.
In defense of the Mackie 32 8, some classics have been made on those. Hallucinogen anyone?
Filteria also uses one. |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Dec 24, 2013 14:54
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On 2013-12-23 22:21, PoM wrote:
i m not sure it s this one mate..(do yo mean the yamaha piece of crap ? in the old day at first we tought it s good a friend add one but it sound like shit next to great sounding console ) it s the micro serie but the one before the vlz pre that sound crap if i remember? , it s very old.. i don t remember the exact model would have to check but on the micro serie price increase ridicously?? i was sure i should have bought one when it was costing less than 100 euros.. just cause it s popular today to sound like what some famous techno/house producer sounded in the past , old daft punk and french house stuff i have seen one at 350 euros..
was looking for a christmas present that i really need and that would be welcom..will report if i find one cheap in good shape..
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oh yeah friend, I confused something. It is Yamaha 0v96 ) which is a good start but also quite limited not much inputs and outputs, not enough for a real psytrance production with many channels. I build with it groups over groups it is not that bad the preamps but better wiht external ones.
I agree the sound is crap, it is only cool to use eq for boosts hehe you can connect it to another(not 0v96) console and use one for additive and the other for subtractive eq - i did so it's fun. But all in all its wont make your sound better it is more a nice path to play around with the signal flow maybe use some external effects via pathcbay with it make fun.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Dec 25, 2013 04:48
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On 2013-12-23 21:33, TimeTraveller wrote:
you probably mean mackie 0v96 one of the most sold console in history.
I know it in and out and would not recommend it to anybody, it has nice analog eq's though..but only additive eqing imo.you can get it cheap though and have a nice introductions to consoles.
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ahh I confused here the two consoles. yamaha ov96 i quite similar but I talked about mackie 1604vlz however, both are not an alternative imo. Both together are nice in equalization when yamaha does the subtractive and mackie the additive part /if needed imo.
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yornav
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Posted : Feb 21, 2014 12:55
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On 2013-12-23 11:10, Taisto wrote:
Yeah i call, and raise another 18k
Lets put golden minimoog with diamonds on the line..
Seriously, who from our poor hippie community can afford those 'cheap' 18k stuff, for just having some fun..
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Well maybe it's time to grow the f#ck up, cut the dreads, kill the dope & get a real job eh? I hate my job, 16 hours a day of soul sucking government work. BUT I have a kick ass home I'm about to move in to & I can buy the kind of hardware you hippies wank to.
If you really want it you'll work for it, otherwise suck it up & stop being a whiney princess in pink!!
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Yes, I have been working too like shit... And I see allot of my hippie friends envy the one's that have the €€€ or $$$. Some people come over and when they tough my moog voyager and all the foogers and... and... I know I have to get them out before they break a knob to Fu*/ me.
I see many artists have $$$ and €€€ studio's.
You live for it or you don't.
I decided to work 20years hard and then I buy a farm ontop of a mountain with all the gear I wanted... Life is not only about living your 20ties |
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yornav
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Posted : Feb 21, 2014 13:07
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Besides that I have been looking to a console too... just to do old school stuff... just for the fun. With a cheap lexicon mpx 400 with cheap 44.1kHz AD/DA converters... Just to have some fun.
For proper production anno 2014 I would not use a mackie behringer, allan & heat or soundcraft desk these days. It's good for a live ensemble gig or old school production workflow. These days complexity of sound design is much more these days.
Is it really worth to buy a cheap console???
One's you really checked an punchy ssl console. You gonna be like Fu*/, just that thing give a quality to the sound that we cannot achieve with 80€/channel desk. Thats just the way it is.
If you want to record bassguitar like ''Vibrasphere'' You need some good analog components.
Open a cheap console and look to the eq part (printboard. Now look to the printboard of an SSL or... You gonna be like: Fu*/, One has 3 resistors and 4 transistors and the other one has fucking chips on it like crazy. Enhance the price you pay for just 1 channal strip of a pro console.
I was thinking of buying a console to, but if I only use the faders and pan control to balance the sound, because the EQ's are sh*t. Then I beter look for something else.
Maybe I buy an UAD Apollo. The plugins are still better then the cheap consoles. You will have 8 inputs with best emulation of SSL console, Top compression, enhancers, exiters and much more... Recall function...
But If I would want to buy a cheap fun console I would buy Allan And heat zed 4 bus or zed16R. |
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