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God: did someone see him in parties?

day_tripper
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Posted : Nov 25, 2008 07:55
How can you see something you can't perceive?           "It's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop at the end." - Douglas Adams
gutter
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Posted : Nov 25, 2008 12:18
i think when i'm on lsd i can see the god within the people around me, maybe its the aura and the energy of every individual which represents life itself, the flame within you and how you co-exist with the universe, the energy and life of nature, the trees-flowers-sea-sky-animals-mankind and how everything become one, i dont really believe in god, its the spark of life within you, hidden knowledge of thousands of years and evolution...
then i smile and keep on dancing
havent see any "guy" in white with a long beard though yet & i really dont think this type of god exists
moki
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Posted : Nov 25, 2008 12:46
of course it does, it is just only in our own heads. whoever creates a god in his head looking like that, that is exactly what he is gonna see in a higher state of consciousness at a truly psychedelic party. it is just an archetype. i really dont think that god looks like any of those descriptions from any religion. i have spent really a lot of time with each religion on this earth reading their scriptures and myths but i was by no means persuaded that god is any if that. it is just a symbol to visualize the energy better. like for instance if you wanna direct your vision to a new beginning and end of an old time, it is just good to visualize shiva as a destroyer and creater of words. but you could take any of the other deities and their symbolic powers and visualize them also, from any religion. and still it is not god. god is all, that is, he is the good and evil together, the creation and the destruction together. we are too much focusing on only one side of the cosmic energy, and forget that god is beyond dualities. he cannot be only light or only dark, he is both, he is everything.

that is why i prefer to think of god as a frequence. sound frequence, visual frequence, any frequence from the world we percieve. i prefer to see the objects of the material worlds as frequence too, some of them have a frequence that is within the spectrum that i can perceive, some are not. and then again you have the whole meaning of entheogens, which means plants with which you can see god. if i am on shrooms, i can perceive even more frequences that i couldnt perceive within my spectrum before. so all is a frequence at the end. our brain is a frequence. even we ourselves are just a frequence.

i saw this type of god only twice, the christian and actually i saw his son and not god himself and he was telling me that i should smoke less chillum but then he left me. never seen him again. i have seen also the vast variety if hindu deities many times, especially durga i see pretty often, she is even more evil than kali, i love to see her energy at parties and have her everywhere at home too. but still it is not god, it is just a symbol in our heads....

and quite a lot of deities i saw while i was putting the visuals of a party dedicated on the tibetan book of the dead. wow that was intense....all the time deities. ...the preparation was more spiritual than the party itself
smorphelia8
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Posted : Nov 28, 2008 13:42
Quote:

On 2008-02-11 08:03, mk47 wrote:
knowitall preachy hippies diluting hinduism piss me off . its a drugs and dance scene dude .. not a way to enlightenment ..




best post i have read in a long time.
bravo mk47

god bless you
moki
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Posted : Nov 28, 2008 15:00
sorry but how can you refer to a scene which is 100 small scenes even if we dont have 100 different names for the styles. it can not be A scene. it is just YOUR scene.
but i could say for instance, you have at least 6 main sub scenes in the psy trance scene and in between of that you have another 5 in each of them. its like a fractal. so you can for instance talk about noise poison scene or electrypnose scene or kindzadza scene or whatever. well whatever. you can have a nice go to hell with the drug and dance scene at the end. as i already said forget god. he is not even slightly interested in a drug and dance scene. this is a place for another one, a fallen angel. may be you can see at least him. or you just take your drugs and are happy. i think that one of th emain things psy trance ever did, was to fragment. one of the best things ever.
Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 11, 2009 05:45
interesting topic!

of course i understand people can get upset, its normal, we are humans...

so i have not seen only good at parties but i have seen bad there...
but im sure i will see good at a party someday!

what i would like to go back to is this inner voice we all have and which we can lose in times of darkness and times were we dont listen to it and ignore it and just keep going... well we keep going to wrong direction straight into darkness.. remember darkness and light is only picture of feelings... good or bad feelings... thats how i see it

my only advice is follow your inner voice with the good feeling.. if you lose it and keep going into darkness you will find light again if you are not very unlucky and it all goes very wrong... still i believe that you can find back again even if it all goes terribly wrong... but you will regret that you didnt stop it when you could have... cause we can all say stop!!

train one self to put limits.. and fight for light

we must believe in good.. believe in bad and you probably are very angry with your self... i know i been and i know i wanna fight for light... that is what matters....

when i see people take care of the nature when they party, when they respect nature they will respect others that live in it aswell...

this is not a easy task.. we have to fight!


labyrinth
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Posted : Jan 11, 2009 20:26
we see god all around us everyday, in nature, in ourselves, in the sun and the moon, everytime you look into a friends' eyes.

religions have created this view that god and the spiritual world is something external, like god is up there and we are down here. i think we are much more connected than that. the spiritual world is all around us just like the physical 'reality' that we see and we can connect with it if we choose to.

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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jan 12, 2009 07:35
I see it the same way.Its not bout here or there or where?.. ,god,supreme or spiritual collectif massif energy is everwhere where life exists.If its in a high mind expanding or a deep sobber samadhi meditation.
Call it what you want,as long as the aim is something good or positive we have the same way.Spirituality and religion are to me two different paths.Spirituality is a expirience and more devotion whereas religions could be programms which from time to time become dangerous.Well I believe religions can be very good way though,as long as its with gratitude its same.
traveller
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Posted : Jan 13, 2009 00:15
Sure, I've seen Posford play lots of times!           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jan 13, 2009 09:09
after 15 years of psytrance I never saw mr posford life playing .Well life playing.But I wouldnt regard him as someone higher than anyone around me.
insane
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Posted : Jan 20, 2009 11:59
its all in the mind u can see anything u wish...
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Posted : Jan 20, 2009 17:43
So this one time while dancing in a Juno Reactor show, God came down from the heavens and scratched my balls.
I never saw him in person, but it was wonderful!

lol
insane
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Posted : Jan 20, 2009 19:07
^ nice imagination hehe
or
did it happen in real for all u know it was a gay night! hehe          ------------------------------
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jan 21, 2009 07:11
lol that was a funny response haha
jabba


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Posted : Jan 31, 2009 19:45
well .........was walking on this beautiful road called life ...looking all around ...... enchanted by the beauty of the flowers and trees and got carried away and then started fooling around .....came then a stone .... i stumbled and was about to have a big fall with my face turned down and a stranger with no gender ....no face & no religion caught me and prevented the fall ..... and i saw GOD ..................... in the parties it was only flowers and beads            To focus sometimes you need to spin hard on your soul's axis..... just don't ask how and what it means ;)
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