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other_reality
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Posted : Sep 2, 2005 13:22
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This is almost right. Having better means to express yourself, should mean that you can make "better" music. Sometimes though, the hours spent in production, sucks up the initial inspiration for musicality.
But as always, things are changing, and the demand for super production has almost eliminated the true spirit in music. A double bass, a fat bassdrum, some blinks and boinks, and maybe a cool sharp arpeggio will do the trick now, if produced well.
Back then, things were different, the crowd was different, the vibe, the music, everything... Soul, harmony, melody which combined together bring a musical piece of whatever form together, are lacking fron todays productions. There are ofcourse many artists that still have that touch and sense of musicality. It's just that they are not as many as before.
It is not strange that most of the old dogs, have quit the scene for something else, mostly progressive, which is a logical step.
Those who still remain, are trying to relive the musical past combined with todays productions standards, and most of the times they fail.
So, the past is past. I loved that past, and I still do. Like the way I love old progressive rock and electronic music. Today, we live in a time of thousand releases, but 90% of them being nonsense. That 10% is worth looking for, and hard to find.
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ritual_om
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Posted : Sep 3, 2005 05:52
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aliened
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Posted : Sep 6, 2005 02:31
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'It is not strange that most of the old dogs, have quit the scene for something else, mostly progressive, which is a logical step.'
maybe its not but i wud say to them well ok , go on , but i dont need u anymore
goa has to be changed , almost dissaper , gone in history , some old dogs changed directions .. but there is a few newcomers who bring the new vision of psi culture , add personal bookmarks , makin it pass thru and as like result we can get some new , not existed before .. was mentoned to Tommy Miraculix , he is stayin in front of the dark and the light sides .. his second album is somethin unexpectable to hear , for me , its so special , i wud call it the tru psychedelica , psychedelica of psychedelics ..
'Listening to a killing kick drum.. is NOT a pleasant experience...Psy trance with "soul" and "intelligence" changed their minds, thank God '
no need to push anyone in to psi , they shud have atleast a spark in hearts so with time it can grow up in to the flame ..
' goa freaks unite:P '
hehe wot bout psi freaks eh ? : D!
" And as the gods have given us , so we return the gift " - Bill Cosmosis " Gift of the Gods "
" That's right - otherworld lifeforms . A fucking alien ! "
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radi6404
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Posted : Sep 10, 2005 19:25
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On 2005-09-06 02:31, aliened wrote:
'It is not strange that most of the old dogs, have quit the scene for something else, mostly progressive, which is a logical step.'
maybe its not but i wud say to them well ok , go on , but i dont need u anymore
goa has to be changed , almost dissaper , gone in history , some old dogs changed directions .. but there is a few newcomers who bring the new vision of psi culture , add personal bookmarks , makin it pass thru and as like result we can get some new , not existed before .. was mentoned to Tommy Miraculix , he is stayin in front of the dark and the light sides .. his second album is somethin unexpectable to hear , for me , its so special , i wud call it the tru psychedelica , psychedelica of psychedelics ..
'Listening to a killing kick drum.. is NOT a pleasant experience...Psy trance with "soul" and "intelligence" changed their minds, thank God '
no need to push anyone in to psi , they shud have atleast a spark in hearts so with time it can grow up in to the flame ..
' goa freaks unite:P '
hehe wot bout psi freaks eh ? : D!
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Your´re not right at all, the old goa style exists, look for Suntrip or Tranceform Records or look for Simon Posford and his friends, they don´t produce worse full on, next mfg will bring a new album out maybe it can be old psychedelic and 2006 Astral Projection will release the new album new siesy or so and i think Astral won´t release a full on album, it´s not their style |
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 10, 2005 22:02
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On 2005-09-10 19:25, radi6404 wrote:
Your´re not right at all, the old goa style exists, look for Suntrip or Tranceform Records
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I guess it's a matter of how you see things. To me those labels do not release much that come close to how Goatrance was. I'll call it a somewhat bad attempt to recreate the past. In my opinion it's very often way too fluffy, layer on layer, way too fast and in quite a few cases also very bad produced (thats the closest they come to old Goatrance lol). |
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radi6404
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Posted : Sep 10, 2005 22:30
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listen to filteria and think about what you say, he/they make music close to etnica/pleiadians, and maybe with this groups the old style come back |
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 10, 2005 22:57
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On 2005-09-10 22:30, radi6404 wrote:
listen to filteria and think about what you say, he/they make music close to etnica/pleiadians, and maybe with this groups the old style come back
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I was actually also thinking about Filteria when i wrote what i wrote. I know some say Filteria is the "Newschool" of bringing back the Goa sound but I have to say i do not at all agree. I find Filteria's music very fluffy, way too fast, way to multilayred with many not so amazing melodies thrown random together and in my opinion a long way from having a ok soundproduction (even though that would be ok if the music was more interesting). In many ways not so far from some of the fluffy melodic Full On even though I know his influence is the more melodic faster end of Goa music and especially Etnica. No offense to Filteria. It's just a matter of taste and how you compare things.
I am sure a lot of you will flame me now and your welcome. It's my opinion and not nessesary yours and I respect your opinion as long as you respect that I have one too and the right to express my opinion 
Again I got to say that I would rather look forward than try to re-create the past. That has never worked out for anyone. |
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ritual_om
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Posted : Sep 11, 2005 06:12
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tranceform and suntrip'releases for sure aren't full-on.they try to reach the old-school goa feeling with real effort and they are quite close.this,of course,doesn't mean that they release goa masterpieces but it does mean that they don't go mainstreal full=onish.
the fact that this change of direction by some labels means that in the future goa may be back for real and goa masterpieces to be produced again.
let us not forget that when ifo came out(a real goa gem) many,many releases were in the market that were not that good.
it may be a matter of time that goa will be in the game again and the true spirit embraced once more!
patience... |
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ritual_om
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Posted : Sep 11, 2005 06:19
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and another thing is that etnica/pleiadians music is unique,amazing,true psychedelic space compositions that imho won't be reached ever...
not even by 'themselves' for carlo is gone...
carlo rejoin! |
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radi6404
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Posted : Sep 11, 2005 14:01
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ritual_om true, i agree at all, suntrip records has a website in that you can listen to short clips of they´re cds and the music is not bad but the main point is that the music has nothing from worse full on in it. |
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 11, 2005 14:52
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On 2005-09-11 14:01, radi6404 wrote:
ritual_om true, i agree at all, suntrip records has a website in that you can listen to short clips of they´re cds and the music is not bad but the main point is that the music has nothing from worse full on in it.
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But thats not entirely correct. Listen to the music again.. If we take Filteria as an example. It's got the very cheesy melodies, fast BPM's, hard kick's, somewhat similar basslines, squeeking layers of sounds on top of eachother. To me there's much more Full On in Filteria than anything similar with the old Goatrance. But as I said it's my opinion and a matter of how you interpretate the music. To me there's absolutely nothing new under the sun here. It's at best a very bad attempt to copy something that are long gone.
I still dont understand why people want to look backwards instead of moving forward. The solution to our scene's furture is for sure not to try and copy something that's already been done. |
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 11, 2005 14:56
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On 2005-09-11 06:19, ritual_om wrote:
and another thing is that etnica/pleiadians music is unique,amazing,true psychedelic space compositions that imho won't be reached ever...
not even by 'themselves' for carlo is gone...
carlo rejoin!
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I agree but do you really want to have artists that copy Etnica just so they can sound "old-school"? Is that not just the same as all the Full On artists that copy eachother?
Wouldn't you rather like to see our scene move on and find new ways instead of standing still with artists that copy old times music? |
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Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Sep 11, 2005 17:13
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Sep 12, 2005 01:20
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handA would you mind reccomend some of the music that u concider GOA trance?in order to understand what goa trance music is in your dictionary
respect,
CRX,athens
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ritual_om
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Posted : Sep 12, 2005 05:52
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On 2005-09-11 06:19, ritual_om wrote:
and another thing is that etnica/pleiadians music is unique,amazing,true psychedelic space compositions that imho won't be reached ever...
not even by 'themselves' for carlo is gone...
carlo rejoin!
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I agree but do you really want to have artists that copy Etnica just so they can sound "old-school"? Is that not just the same as all the Full On artists that copy eachother?
Wouldn't you rather like to see our scene move on and find new ways instead of standing still with artists that copy old times music?
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i never said something like that.i don't like it at all.but we see a movement here that has to do with oldschool music.
with a lot of effort and of course imagination,we can have good old -school in a different way back again.
P.S an artist doesn't have to change the whole of his style in order to create something new.he has to find new ideas based in some principal patterns concerning the music he wants to produce.nowadays these patterns are long gone and so we get a new style(that in most cases) is just meaningless. |
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