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Goa Notation, Scale or Modes... please help

Irukandji
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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 03:10
ok, here is a question that has probably been asked before and is maybe so basic but i believe must be the foundation of all things goa and psy...

notation, chord progressions, scales or modes...

what notes do i use in a typical goa style lead? chord progressions? what modes should i use? is there an Indian Mode for scales?

can someone point me in the right direction? a website or at least a few examples would be nice;

just notes would be fine, better would be midi or a score or two at least...

cheers
organix
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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 03:14
http://www.electricbluesclub.co.uk/learn_piano_chords.html

Irukandji
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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 03:23
thankxz Organix... but what scale do i use to get that particular goa flavour?
Elad
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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 04:46
TB303           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
master bud


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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 10:20
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On 2007-03-26 04:46, tsabeat wrote:
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@Irukandji:

There is no particular scale or mode for psy...your job is to experiment with major/minor etc. scales and different modes to find which suits the mood of your music . U also won't find designated chord progressions for this genre, there is none. Check some theory, keep your bassline low and u will be fine.
bukboy
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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 13:51
when u get good enough you'll see that there really is no scale ala matrix.
you can make your own scale so long as you can traverse the notes from one position to another smoothly. the wonders of modulation.
jivamukti
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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 19:44
Instead of being smartasses, why can't you give him a couple typical examples. Contrary to what you are saying, there are scales that are/were commonly used in goa as such or with a bit of tweaking. That's the reason some tracks sound so similar.           When rain dries, clouds form.
When clouds moisten, rain forms.
slyman604
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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 21:31
the phrygian mode is the typical goa scale/sound.
you can find the notes on that piano chord site.
mess around with different minor scales though, it will all sound different.
sy000321
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Posted : Mar 26, 2007 22:42
old school reasoning used to be something like this:

either only use the WHITE keys

or

use some strange harmonic progression like

c/c#/e/f/g/g#/a#           roll a joint or STFU :)
master bud


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Posted : Mar 27, 2007 09:37
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On 2007-03-26 22:42, sy000321 wrote:
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use some strange harmonic progression like

c/c#/e/f/g/g#/a#




Which is F harmonic minor.
missing-link
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Posted : Mar 27, 2007 22:56
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On 2007-03-27 09:37, master bud wrote:
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On 2007-03-26 22:42, sy000321 wrote:
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use some strange harmonic progression like

c/c#/e/f/g/g#/a#




Which is F harmonic minor.




alright clever clogs
sy000321
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Posted : Mar 29, 2007 21:33
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On 2007-03-27 09:37, master bud wrote:
Which is F harmonic minor.



yes, it shares the same notes with F harmonic minor.

and i guess that if you only play white keys it's C major.

regarding other scales: http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/exotic-scales.txt

if've already posted this link, but i guess it can be always usefull.          roll a joint or STFU :)
Mike A
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Posted : Mar 31, 2007 01:00
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On 2007-03-26 22:42, sy000321 wrote:
old school reasoning used to be something like this:

either only use the WHITE keys


Not really. I find the keys of many goa tracks for harmonic mixing. I've never seen a C Major track and A Minor are not as common as I expected.
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