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reignthruacid
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 08:17:33
Yo, how about those "bbbbbbbb" sounds that I hear so often in DarkPsy tracks. it sounds so cool, yet i haven't been able to achieve it in ableton. why is that?

is it a way of patterns?

or is it an effect applied to the track?

just plain old audio track samples?
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Mandari

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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 10:05
sounds like a golden dark ray, it´s just one octave down compared to the usual golden psy ray.....

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geekhorde
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 15:13
I think, without hearing an example, what you're describing is actually manipulated samples of either the kick drum or the whole track, through some sort of stutter/repeat effect. Or, god forbid, a manual edit acheiving the same effect.

In Ableton you might try making a drum rack with a few of your favorite kick drums, and make some fast repeating patterns in a Midi clip. Then, add some fx like beat repeat or buffer override in that channel, experiment, and record in another audio channel. Cut up the results and keep the bits you like best. Chuck those bits into a drum rack, along with your kicks. Use those for your track.
geekhorde
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 15:17
Oh, and add a hipass filter with a pretty high frequency setting, a delay and some reverb, with some lfo modulation on the frequency of the filter, to the bufferoverride experimental channel and you'll get some really cool scratchy farty fx sounds.
geekhorde
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 15:36
oh and i never quite got that. what's a golden ray?
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 17:06
+1 for beatrepeat. If you don't have Ableton then Audio Damage make a plug called replicant that will also produce stuttering fx.           www.quantizecourses.com Studio & Online Music Production Courses
reignthruacid
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 20:26
Ah i see, i'll have to try some of those ideas. I've tried using beat repeat for a bit, fiddling around with it and I didn't really get the result i wanted and it sounded really random. as for buffer override, i'll have to check that out.

thanks!
reignthruacid
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 20:28
what is a golden dark ray? I assume it's a reference to some sci-fi show? hm.
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 20:53
sorry for foolin around, dont mind mate.

just want to give you a hint that this is pretty hard to say without an example..... it´s like: do you know how one achieves that melody like piuuuhhhhhhdiedldüüüühdäädääätzmiedlüüü



so forget about golden rays, it´s just the isratrance mascot since some while.

so, now as i know about the issue i would recommend to stutter manually, takes some while, but leads to better results at the end imo. just stutter the part, repeat it manually, edit the size and play around with each part, transpose, add fx, maybe work on different channels/tracks, reverse, do whatever comes to your mind to get the random feeling. if you dont like random just dont get that weired.

if you´re on ableton you could try follow action, prepare some clips and say them to play randomly.

many ways to rome, example would be some more easy to solve the problem

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electronic maddness


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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 21:04
muhahahahh....the golden rays are back love when that happens...& yea...an example would be nice...because im sure everyone who will try to vocalize "bbbbbbbb" will hear something different in their head           i can explain it to you...but i cannot understand it for you...
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 21:43
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reignthruacid
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Posted : Apr 21, 2010 23:35
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On 2010-04-21 21:04, electronic maddness wrote:
muhahahahh....the golden rays are back love when that happens...& yea...an example would be nice...because im sure everyone who will try to vocalize "bbbbbbbb" will hear something different in their head




ah, pardon me, for some reason i thought the best way to interpret the sound would be as a "high-tech digital raspberry".

stutter didn't cross my mind at all, lol. i'll have to check out the enigma plugin.
electronic maddness


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Posted : Apr 22, 2010 12:05
hahaha...

i know this is a production thread...but seriously "stutter" was not what came to my mind when i read "bbbbbbbb"

@ktif...i like the way you think

          i can explain it to you...but i cannot understand it for you...
zebu connection


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Posted : Apr 23, 2010 14:58
try to understand how this kind of sound works, in what freq...



try to get similar ones in your vsts and hards...



forget about how is it in your ableton live, before that... this sound is just a wave... and u can get it in every instrument!




keep ripping bros
zebu connection


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Posted : Apr 23, 2010 15:01
those glytch tunes are amazing... very plastic and hipnotic....




work with then matched with the freq auto, panning and volume automation too....



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