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PsyGalaXy
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Sep 29, 2009 11:28:07
Hi fellows, i'm experimenting the use of SmartelectroniX LiveCut on the Main leads, amazing
it adds lots of tricks and stutter, very diferent from chop them manually, but..

it's so fuckin randomly!!! Never achieve the same effects in the next 7 bars


If i route the channel with live cut to a stereo bus and record...it records the dry channel only (i'mo Logic)wtf
the only way to get it on a track is solo &bounce but it's randomly anyway

the parameters: MAXRep and MINrep are all set to 1bar
My aim is to make very rapid stutters at the end & beginning of a single bar

how do u achieve that effect?

thanxx a lot as alqqways guys



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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Sep 29, 2009 12:21
edit manualy the random wav after bounce mixing it with the original.           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
GyPsynate
GyPsy

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Posted : Sep 29, 2009 19:34
Yes I also have a hate/love relationship with this vst.
The best way( that I could figure out ) to use it is to bounce your audio like 5 times everyone will be differnt but you cut out all the parts you like/want and maualy arange them into your loop.
Also like Elad said you can mix your original sound with the parts you cut out of the bounced audio.
I think that you might get better results for what you want out of the db Glitch VST :
http://illformed.org/plugins/glitch/

tons easier to use and has more cool glich effects in it.
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Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi

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Posted : Sep 29, 2009 19:37
Noooooo please don't get another person to use that

OK, OK, if you must use it, PLEASE don't use that red Tape Stop sound. The preset monkeys have made it so that sound is heard everywhere and kills the glamour of the rest of the plugin.

Try Effectrix by Sugar Bytes! Combined with Replicant by Audio Damage. You can get some cool glitching out of there.
GyPsynate
GyPsy

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Posted : Sep 29, 2009 21:10
The only reason I sugested it is the sound effect he was asking about making is kind of a pain to do with live-cut.That vst is just so random...

I do agree that db glitch is the #1 most over used vst out but man it has some cool capibilities.
( red tape stop not included ) lol that sound is so 90's


If you use all presets please take time to learn how to use your toys!

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jizy
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Posted : Sep 29, 2009 22:40
Yeh defonatly effectrix.. The best one in my opinion
PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 10:55
Guys thx a lot, but DB GLITCh is working on windows only, i'm on logic8 (damn one),
i'm using Live cut basically cause it's FREE and there's a very few rapid for mac au
downloading demo of effettrix and repliCUNT for testing'em
against livecut


That song seems pretty buggy, so i cant'bounce tany part or instrument , i have an audio files milion times chopped and when it comes logic automatically SOLO it , wtf,
i've gotta find another way to bounce the OUt 1-2 or i lose a week of cut & smash

Cheeeerz
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Mandari

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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 11:14


why the hell cant people figure out what livecut´s doin? i mean it´s not that difficult and written next to each slider.....

u wont believe how many people use this glitching shit(dblue, replicant, livecut, effektrix,wahtever in hope to get the next kindzadza one day), and please believe me, one can easily hear that, however u chop and rearrange it....
do it yourself man, at the end its not this fuckin amazing. want rapid stutter? do it yourself brother.... i mean think yourself about, what is stutter??? its the easiest thing livecut offers. want some pitch in it, go and pitch it......

piuh im so bored of these glitch people and have to say it was the same to me. this wow effect, but this was quite some while ago....some years!!!

now it seems like everyone´s (and sure some more newbs too) using dblue or whatever possible to use for mac. but guys cmon, its fun to listen one time, but where´s the musician in u or the technician if u dont ask yourself how this fuckin software is doin this???
and dont wanna talk about musician here, glitch has nearly nothin to do with music at the end, its some nice technical show off if u do yourself, but with more sense of an effect than a musical part of your story around. otherwise in case u dont do yourself its some bored expression of what plugins you´re using...

and damn its not that difficult to do, just few clicks more for sure. but hey, music´s not made for lazy people....


cheerz
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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 13:46
Mandari
I don't wanna be the next Kindzaza, i hate copying artist's style,really, i have mine,and stutters are part of it, fo sure i'm not lazy on it, it's1 month hard work for that tune

i have done the big part of this stuff manually chopping,reverse ecc.. but i like the way livecut sounds,and can't figure why is so irregular even synced to logic.

livecut is only a tool to get what i want, i have it on my mind and i'm donig it, if it's possible i would like 2 use a girl's pussy to get stutter

all the best
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Mandari

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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 17:10
ok bro,

dont mind my opinion on that pls, for everything else all said by others here.

there´s pretty no way to get livecut doin some stuff not that randomly.

but i tried, and have to say its possible to get some closer. you just have to know the timing stuff and calculate, adjust it to your song. it´s just so randomly workin cause its calculating in these small parts. know what i mean?

if you´re workin on a track just figure out the timing stuff or let it calculate by any site for 4th,8th, 16th whatever u like and take these times for adjusting livecut. anyway, i was not able to adjust it EXACTLY, so pretty close, but not that what i was lookin for.... quite some while ago, but i remember good.

i didnt say u wanna be next kindzadza, but many want to be and go this way i mentioned. if u feel appealed by my post i dont mind, but was not you i meant

btw, stutter out of my girls pussy recorded would be so great, but its pretty silent BUT if u know the exactly frequency, theres a chance u can synthesize it by your own



cheerz
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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 17:34
no prob, bro it's my bad english that makes me a lot of misunderstanding, let's drink a beer

I'm finding that best shit comes out in a 16 or more bar period, then i cut up all at 1/4 and rearrange with the dry one

          http://mystic-sound.com/releases/ioon-cosmic-downtempo-9314-oclock/
FREE DOWNLOAD EKTO http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/ioon-the-ioonfinite-loop
https://spiritedrecords.bandcamp.com/album/times-of-peace-2
https://soundcloud.com/opalmoonproj
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Mandari

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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 18:47
let's drink a beer ...




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here we go m8 !!!

my bad english and my unsensitive type of writing also causes misunderstanding sometimes

and sure some times some more *hehe*

maybe effectrix´s something for u, at least it´s workin on a mac.... but i dont like the fx, they´re not enough stunning power for my taste. but it´s the most versatile glitching tool for a mac imo, at least the only one i know with these capabilitys.

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telekom youth
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Posted : Sep 30, 2009 19:20
So I guess you've probably already tried Supatrigga? I've been making some pretty radically dynamic effect racks in ableton complete with juicy one knob glitchfest macros with those smartelectronix plugins+beatrepeat. Also if you're on a mac, theirs tons better than dbglitch, id go ahead and shell out the money for gleetchlab. Its not that much, and it seems you have far more control over it. But yea, Axis, replicant is supersick as well. Ill have to throw that one in a rack one of these days.           http://soundcloud.com/tactile-one
Axis Mundi
Axis Mundi

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Posted : Oct 1, 2009 12:54
You can run two identical channels of audio parallel to each other... one with live cut, one without. There you can pick and choose where you want the plugin to "do its work" and where stays as is.

Really for me the best results are manual editing + effects, though! Certainly nothing wrong with doing both Especially if you keep repeating the process until it's thoroughly mangled.
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Mandari

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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 15:44
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Really for me the best results are manual editing + effects, though!....




+1, thats what im talking about...

to the thingy above, i got gleetchlab here, both versions, but dont like them cause only workin standalone and just another plugin doin crazy stuff you can do pretty more versatile yourself with much more power fx plugins

i tried many things until i found the best thing is just DIY if u need glitch.... abletons "slice to midi" option is just heaps better than most of the other shitty plugins. anyway as i mentioned, always DIY is some few clicks more, i dont mind.



CAUSE with stunning better results. i mean think about yourself how powerful these plugins can be in there fx section (and these pricings), while doin all this other crazy stuff, which is still limited anyway. imagine what u can achieve by your own and think about what these plugins cant do. think about more crazy stuff and get off the wow effect by these easy built plugins. i mean gleetchlab is something one can easily do his/herself with reaktor i.e. its kinda like that made

anyway, its up to u folks how ur workin and what you´re using. everything above is just my opinion

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