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German Police and the ones who search for fake Djs.
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ChoBo
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 00:02
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if it is true, is there some statement from the police? New law from court? |
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TiMMY
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 00:13
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This couldn't be true. It fails every basic judicial test.
Let's say I'm an artist who makes tracks, burn them and play in parties only. Can I expect a life sentence?  |
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Pavel
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 00:15
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On 2004-07-12 00:13, TiMMY wrote:
This couldn't be true. It fails every basic judicial test.
Let's say I'm an artist who makes tracks, burn them and play in parties only. Can I expect a life sentence?
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i can list several artists who should expect one 
Juss kidding
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Mike A
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 00:34
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You must go and buy your own cd.
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tv@oxygen
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 01:54
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what about own production-when the artists makes a new track then he cant play that, becouse its burned cd not the original printed copy?
sorry but its quite senseless IMHO...
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Mike A
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 02:17
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Well, dont make music then.
If you won't make music, no one will pirate your music because it doesn't exist. Problem solved. 
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TiMMY
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 02:22
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I meant that I don't release my music at all. No one buys it anyway 
Damn, we're arguing over some stupid things here  |
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Mike A
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 02:27
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It's the time of the night
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urkynaohmdajay
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 02:47
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Yer this is all too much !!
Too many laws already.....
The funny thing is everybody still takes these people who make stupid laws seriosly!!!
But why ....
This is an intresting idea but i dont see it working very well.....
http://www.dontbuycds.org/
They are even desighning a cd you cant copy
now....
Where does all the money go if it,s not to the artists deffently not for the plastic but to some git multinational 
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DvP
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 12:01
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It's been happening here in Portugal too. A couple of years ago they started to check some house partys and some discos. And yes, they are fighting the soulseek djs. The portuguese law is getting clear on this matter: It's NOT illegal to play CD-R, but you have to prove later that you own the orginal and show them the invoice. This applies to vinyl too. You must keep every invoice of every single piece of music you buy. Other problem is promo cds. If you have those, you must get a written declaration from the legal owner (label or producer).
I still don't think they are into the trance scene, they're focusing in discos first, and I know a couple of guys (porto and lisbon) who'll have to pay over 1000 euros for the illegal music they were carrying. |
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nobody_4
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 12:03
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sound fair to me that they had to pay over 1000 euro. At least DJ's should pay for the music they play  |
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Rik
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 14:28
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Police have absolutely nothing to do with copyrights, and no way to verify immediatly if a cd is even copyrighted at all (with a copyright organisation). only the staff of GEMA ( http://www.gema.de , a copyright organisation like Acum, Sabam, ... each country has it's own) are qualified for this and allowed to receive the copyright fee's.
I don't see what the police have to do with this at all (except for writing out a warrant if the party is on private property and invitation only and the GEMA officials aren't allowed in at the party.
Also, you're legally allowed to make copies of cd's you own for your own use, as long as you only use one of these discs at the same time. So a dj doesn't have to take his expensive record collection to a party and have the risk of it being stolen or damaged and such.If this is the case you have to be able to show the officials your original records within a certain period of time.
In belgium an alike organisation (sabam) constantly makes selections of parties and visits them to see if copyrights where paid and originals are being used by the dj's, with possible fines (range 2-500 euro's)for the dj's if you can't provide the originals, and even larger fines for the organisers if they didn't report the party in advance to pay copyright fee's for the records played.
anyone up to date on german copyright laws?
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On 2004-07-12 00:13, TiMMY wrote:
Let's say I'm an artist who makes tracks, burn them and play in parties only. Can I expect a life sentence?
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No, but the organiser does have to pay acum, or whatever local copyright organisation applies a fee for you playing your own tracks (if you're not registered with such organisations to protect copyrights of your tracks -so sabam has told me in belgium- you still have to pay and are entitled to a possible refund at a later point in time)
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Zombi
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 17:44
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its true (not that it wasnt REALY funy to see how u get into paranoya becoze u dont know if its true), thats happened at few big parties in last year in Germany, i can ask some of the guys that were there to write it on this board.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 18:41
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This sounds like a joke... and in any case, would be a better issue to police from within the community if a peaceful way could be found.
I also won't leave home with an original under any circumstance... too much risk involved.
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Stash
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Posted : Jul 12, 2004 19:39
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On 2004-07-12 12:03, Kris wrote:
At least DJ's should pay for the music they play
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very true....why should DJs play burned cds when they get paid to perform........IMO they sghould use originals
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