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Generic Formula Trance Party or The Trance Terrorist Who Stepped on My Toes

Nasos Tantrumm


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Posts :  29
Posted : Oct 20, 2005 05:15

I'm a picky bastard, as much as I'd love to lose my individuality and compromise, at some point I just have to make peace with myself and admit that I'll never be someone who goes with the flow.

Here's what I have to say in response to certain topics brought up in recent replies.

"To each their own"

If I did not "like it", I would not be wasting my precious time typing my thoughts and feelings on a Trance forum. In fact I love "IT" and will pursue my vision of perfection till the last breath leaves my mortal coil. Sure I can settle for mediocrity, for half of greatness, one side of the story. I could be some guy who says to himself, "Hey man, whatever, at least the music is good even though it is being played by someone who does not have the confidence or the decency to look up and see what is happening around them."
DJ's are our leaders for the night, we entrust them with our hopes to reach a higher level of evolution through their music, they have great power at their fingertips, not all people have what it takes to stand in front of a mass of people and control the pulse of the dance floor with a flick of their thumb. Leaders are to have confidence, honor, integrity and foresight. If you can not look me in the eye and dance with me then you don't have what it takes to lead me, no matter how good your music is. The beauty of psy trance parties is not individual enlightenment but a unified state of absolute connection between all elements, a mass of people generating powerful energy that spans space and time, those are the rare moments when the most amazing things happen. When we almost realize the sheer power of hundreds and thousands uniting in mass meditation, bending reality and altering the flow of time. A conscious bard who carefully spins the build up toward that crescendo MUST establish a strong connection with the crowd.

          "We Are The Crew"
N_then_faktor


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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 05:58
Dear Nasos,
here's my response:
It ain't Goa
No matter where you go.

Consequently, you should be a bard to yourself. Don't put on a dj the burden of lifting you above the ground . The dj's are not the leaders, they are, like Virgil leading Dante, just a step ahead of you with a lamp. But the path you take is ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.
Plus, I don't think our strength is in numbers, it's rather in the intensity of the individual thoughts. Which, granted, when combined from multiple sources might be quite intense.

With this wise word,
I drop the sward
Privet, narod
Kuda sdesj vhod?

Peace and respect           In Zen We Trust!
N_then_faktor


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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 06:16
Of course, this is not to say that bad music can totally ruin your evening, and should be avoided at any expense. I would personally pay 20$ not to have gone to a party which sucked
          In Zen We Trust!
SpaceShark


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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 09:41
I agree with Dimitry, "it's nice to have some interaction, but i'd rather hear good music than to see somebody trying to get the audience all hyped up about nothing."
And in my opinion the dj should no go dance with a crowd in the middle of the set. Let him concentrate on his job. Yes, it is his job. Allow him to make sure that the set he's playing comes out perfect and the crowd enjoys it. After the set is done, then interactions should begin.

Saturnia
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 12:11
Moments like this one are guaranteed to cure even the most jaded!

http://www.noctilucent.net/~saturnia/images/cpu_sunrise.jpeg

At the break in "Kung Fu" everyone on the dance floor turned in unison 180 degrees to face the sunrise, and the sun obliged by popping over the horizon at that exact moment.

And when Samy played our Afterburn party two weeks later in San Francisco he opened with that track; he looked up from the decks, made eye contact with us, and smiled.          Saturnia
http://www.facebook.com/saturnia.corybant
Maska
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 17:50
Nasos - you expect perfection on your terms, yet you expect to be unified with the masses at an event? That's not selfish to expect perfection from a human being, who is extending their vision to you? What painter in history ever painted a perfect painting? IF that were the case, you would never see their vision, only reality.....And there is no doubt you love us and this scene and I can't say I don't agree with a lot of what you say.....But I have learned that some have a different vision than I, and those I choose not to be a part of, as I feel their intentions aren't pure and for the good of all of us....but only for the good of themselves....

Not sure who you are referring to, but how do you know that person you "think" isn't connecting with the crowd, really isn't? Maybe that person is, in their own way...The music he is playing should say that to you, not an image that you expected to see.........The only way to true enlightment is to open and expand your mind, not to wait for the expected to occur, then you'll miss all the wonderful little things around you.....           assumption is the mother of all fuckups.
DiMiTry
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 19:25
Quote:

On 2005-10-20 05:58, N_then_faktor wrote:
The dj's are not the leaders, they are, like Virgil leading Dante, just a step ahead of you with a lamp. But the path you take is ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.



indeed

please no zieg heils..

          ..it's just another party..
offthenutboom
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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 20:08
Quote:

On 2005-10-18 20:55, Skeeve wrote:
I have to say, my favorite part of spook's sets is at the end when throws the tracks on, comes out and dances, and then runs back, throws on another track, and does it all again. More people should do that.



What I do not understand is this separation DJ/dancefloor. Stages IMHO suck. I would love to DJ from the middle of the dancefloor and doof with the ppl withought having to run.
offthenutboom
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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 20:10
Quote:

On 2005-10-19 03:19, crackerjap wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-10-19 01:22, Mistress of Evil wrote:
can't say i often experience what you are talking about,




ya. come to the west coast.




Ja ja She is the West Coast
DiMiTry
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 20:11
Quote:

On 2005-10-20 20:08, offthenutboom wrote:

What I do not understand is this separation DJ/dancefloor. Stages IMHO suck. I would love to DJ from the middle of the dancefloor and doof with the ppl withought having to run.



Though central positioning it might create sound/echo/trainwreck issue for the DJ - with main speakers interfering with monitors. not a huge deal, but kind of a pain in the arse.

and also might interfere with the dancing crowd - as in mess up dance floor feng shui.

we usually place the DJ in the corner of the space, btw, for more dancefloor space.           ..it's just another party..
offthenutboom
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Posted : Oct 20, 2005 20:41
Lately I have been having more fun in a Picnic with the core trance community (All the 15 of us), during the day, no pressure, no expectations, no jaded comments, just honesty, understanding, friendship and fun. And that is the end game above all to have fun with anything we are doing... just an eviroment to dance, celebrate, interact and express ourselves. Instead of big impersonal parties with a 10% of the spirit and where money, the material and gratification is set in the forefront of every action. The main reason I have done eventsis to have a place where all my friends can gather and enjoy what we love. Sometimes it was 400 friends, sometimes it was 20, but the spirit is there, the smiles are there. The event, the music is just a vehicle, but the transformation, the friendships, the connections and the unity created is what is really important. Friendships for live. Transtemporal and transspacial. Anywhere anytime. And that is why when importance is place anywhere else, there is such a hollow mechanized feeling lacking humanity or emotion.

I believe in building friendship first, stablishing a deeper connection with everyone involved... then we build and celebrate it. I personally like a psychedelic event because it breaksdown our conditioning, exposes sensory illusions and grows our understanding.
paradigm
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Oct 21, 2005 00:10
"Though central positioning it might create sound/echo/trainwreck issue for the DJ - with main speakers interfering with monitors. not a huge deal, but kind of a pain in the arse. "

this is very true, many european festivals, Full Moon, Boom, Voov, employ this approach
and its usually disasterous. The dj booth is nothing but a continuous trainwreck from out of phase speakers and delays. This is made even worse if its a monster system, because even your headphones may not help isolate it.
Its also not much better on the dancefloor unless your right in front of a stack, so you cant hear any others....

that being said, I dont like playing on a elevated stage. I prefer to be on ground level with the floor, just at the 12'o clock position. Its much easier to conect with people if you can reach over the mixer and shake their hand , vs being on a stage behind a security barrier
Saturnia
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 21, 2005 02:42
Quote:

On 2005-10-21 00:10, paradigm wrote:
Its much easier to conect with people if you can reach over the mixer and shake their hand , vs being on a stage


And as we know from experience, having a stage is no barrier when an audience member is determined to jump into the swirling vortex of the visuals or "hug" the DJ.           Saturnia
http://www.facebook.com/saturnia.corybant
Nasos Tantrumm


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Posts :  29
Posted : Oct 21, 2005 04:09
I love it, gradual decomposition of infinitely large observations to simple science. Someone should come up with a comprehensive guide to successful psychedelic sensations. Because i want to know how many degrees my mixer should be from the nearest whackoo whos overall appearance lead me to believe that there is some serious pent up aggression deep down inside that slightly deformed skull. But i am going to deal with that because it's part of the journey through this mini replica of the world around us that is a trance party. Make no mistake, the dance floor is a battlefield where hundreds of human bodies are flung together, locked in a vortex of tantric rhythm. Evoking the inner magic of any place where this psychedelic flower roots and blooms with hundreds of human petals beaming with extroverted positive energy.

"Enter a Lord of the Rings or Star Wars quote here"

Please pardon my inconsistent manner, my posts are a crude arrangement of words with which I attempt to encompass the infinite puzzle of which I've caught glimpses of.

Thank you for bringing new perspectives on these very dear and important subjects with your replies.           "We Are The Crew"
slyman604
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 21, 2005 13:19
"Please pardon my inconsistent manner, my posts are a crude arrangement of words"

naa your words just sound like the typical psy language deep banter, throw as many descriptions in as possible to mask the fact that you dont really have anything to say. Terence mckenna was a master of this, let him wrest in his grave.
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