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fx teleport - reduce load on your cpu

Colin OOOD
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 18:00
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On 2005-12-04 05:37, kirna wrote:
...who the fuck could ever use all the power of 4x 4800+ x2 cpu... in psytrance production to be precise



Give me the power and I will use it. Seriously. As many convolving reverbs or Waves RCL or SoundShifter plugins as I need? Yes please. Multiple Korg Legacy plugins running simultaneously at full polyphony? Yes please.

IMO networking is a killer app for music production; it has so many advantages. Increased processing power, increased screen-space... it's great for collaboration too as the networked computers can be used for other things (eg. audio editing, sound design or internet access) at the same time as they're processing audio for the track.

I run two computers here (one XP3200+ desktop, one Centrino 1.7 laptop), networked using standard cards. My network app is Wormhole though, not FXTeleport. I get twice the power and twice the screen-space (Google for MaxiVista) and it lets me use tools that otherwise I wouldn't be able to use correctly, as my specturm analyser of choice will not coexist with Cubase on the same computer.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 20:19
More power, but less flexibility (I can use my laptop on stage too), less screen-space, and I'd be unable to use Spectralab.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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sideFXed
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 20:23
lmao

okay, let me try to get this thread into the right direction again .

colin stated about every advantage there is.

I created this thread for people with more than 1 computer and not for people with beefy amd64 x2 cpu's. Still, if you got a real nice computer you still can use networking and gain even more performance.

btw I love to be a smart ass. But hey, I've tried this stuff and I did sit in front of a newly built amd64 4400+ x2 box. I have to say the performance is wicked. But at the moment windows x64 is not ready, lots of x64 drivers are in beta state and the hardware is way to expensive. For me, this networking thing does exactly the job I want it to. It cuts the time I'm having headackes how to squeeze the last margin of power out of my old amd xp cpu and I get lots of advantages in my workflow.

that's all folks, we could even close the thread now because I somehow get the impression everyone has got enough money to build dualcore systems.
Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 22:29
[Quote] sideFXed wrote:
that's all folks, we could even close the thread now because I somehow get the impression everyone has got enough money to build dualcore systems
[and Quote]

Its not about the money (for me)

whan you work in a studio as a pro you mast have the best performance for your work (its all depend on how much power do you need for your project )

like Colin say's "Give me the power and I will use it"

two computer for audio station its not safe at all
and not good for your projects

if you want to work with two comp so its your way to create your work station but its not very good to work that way (if you working as a pro)

Colin OOOD
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 22:57
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On 2005-12-04 22:29, Adrenal Mode wrote:
two computer for audio station its not safe at all
and not good for your projects

if you want to work with two comp so its your way to create your work station but its not very good to work that way (if you working as a pro)



Please explain why this is so. I have been using 2 computers in my studio (as described above) for some time now, and have had no problems to do with 'safety' or otherwise.

And if two computers is not good for an audio workstation then maybe you should tell tell Hans Zimmer:
http://www.mfiles.co.uk/composers/Hans-Zimmer.htm
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Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 23:39
Colin,
I dont like to follw auther ppl that says that 10 computer is good for music production ,10 comp is good for fectory production

one computer is bether than 10 coz its more steibale than 2 or 10 computer that work together

answer that plz:what deilevr more fast info
one comp or two or 10 comp ?


lol,10 computers its like 1000+ GB
all the computers conected in chain so lats say that you want to move file from computer 1 to 10 ,its should take at list one day or less
so image that you need to work with audio
WOW,your seq wont move at all

In this days we have great tech that deilver us more power,data,....

so one big computer its bether than 2 or 10
sideFXed
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Posted : Dec 5, 2005 00:09
I don't know, but some of you guys have no clue. really I'm sorry to flame but dudes did you even try it out? There are demos on the net. And what's up with some of you saying something is better than something else.

It's all a matter of oppinions... and we know they're like a-holes. everyone has got one.

Look at this thread like a success story. I didn't say you gotta like it or you need to buy a second computer. It's just a solution without buying dualcore, without buying a better computer, just use what you've got.

Actually I would have never opened this thread if I wouldn't be 100% sure about stability, easy of use and that it makes sense... for people with more than one computer.

I spent like 50$ and was able to connect the hardware. The app costs in stores 250$. That's a hell lot cheaper than a new dualcore system.

Having a stable computer, have the ability to move file 1 to computer 10... hey guys that's basic stuff and not a matter of this thread.

It's a success story. I'm not advertising, I'm not saying it's better than a dualcore, which in my oppinion it is. The more power the better. Now go back, disable your lan cards and safe money for your big computers while I use my two older ones until prices drop.
sideFXed
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Posted : Dec 5, 2005 00:12
colin that zimmer setup is sick
Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Dec 5, 2005 00:27
sideFXed-

My Quote

if you want to work with two comp so its your way to create your work station but its not very good to work that way (if you working as a pro)

And Quote

i just saying that one comp is faster than 2
coz transfering from computer to computer is more slowly process
and yes i use to work with 2 computer together and that the reason that i'm post in this topic.


the cheip is expensive,think about it.
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Dec 5, 2005 01:22
Heh... I'm not a pro in the same sense as Mike Oldfield and Liam Howlett and Hans Zimmer (I have a dayjob, after all) but here's how I use it:

Stooodio setup:
Main PC - SX Laptop - VSTack

I use Wormhole in two different ways:
1) Send FX eg. aux send in SX going to IR1 running on remote machine

I set up an FX channel in SX with a Wormhole in the first slot, and put a Wormhole in the first slot of one of the group channels on VSTack, followed by IR1 and get audio going between them (SX -> VSTack). Audio is returned to the main PC via S/PDIF from the soundcard on the laptop. There is some network latency but it's on the order of a few milliseconds in my setup and so is not too much to use for reverbs. Wormhole does not require a second sound card, but if you want to use it like this you'll need one Many recent laptops and on-board soundcards allow the audio-out jack to be used as a S/PDIF output though so depending on your machine it might not be necessary.

2) Insert FX eg. VSTi with distortion running on remote machine
This is done by inserting Wormholes both before and after the plugin/s on the remote machine, and setting up one instance in an insert of the VSTi in SX. This last Wormhole acts as both a transmitter and a receiver, sending audio to the first Wormhole on the remote machine, and receiving it from the second one. Wormhole and SX together compensate automatically for varying network latency.

I don't use the insert loop mode so much because obtaining glitch-free results often means SX's plug-in delay compensation has to introduce unacceptably large latency, and in general I'd say bi-directional network audio is not as robust as one-way traffic.

Hope this helps.
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