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fx teleport - reduce load on your cpu
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sideFXed
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 23:51
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I don't know if this has been discussed before... I found this very nice app called fx teleport. (http://www.fx-max.com/fxt)
Basically what it does is teleporting vsti's from a slave computer into your sequencer.
It works via lan. The faster the connection, the better. Preferably you're using firewire or gigabit lan.
One advantage of this is that you only need one audio card in the computer that's running your host/sequencer. You can open up as many vst's the other computers can handle. Latency over gigabit lan like in my case isn't noticeable. I can set the latency of fx teleport to 512 samples like my audio card, record a part. For safety measures you can change to 1024 samples latency on the fly, that results in no crackling/no pauses in the audio. I can play mulitlayered vsti's (like absynth3 and rhino together) or have like 6 different reverbs and no cpu consumption in my host
This is really dope, I can set my audio card on lowest latency 512 samples and it feels almost like hardware.
Another simple thing that you might like in combination with fx teleport is an old vst app from 2003 called xlutop chainer. basically it allows you to "chain" vsti's... so you can play more than one vst together and route vst fx. The main idea behind this is when you teleport plugins, you have some latency. So when you process the vst that runs on the other computer, it doesn't make too much sense to process it with effects again on another computer.
Last but not least, how to control this thing.
Basically you can simply use midi cc's as usual. The gui of the vst's will be displayed on the slaves computer screens. So if you don't want to run and tweak on the other systems you can use the free app called vnc (www.realvnc.com). This works like a remote control and you can even see both screens of dualhead screens.
Imagine me tweaking alot of vst's on 4 monitors  ))
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NikC
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 02:08
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sideFXed
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 09:28
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it almost sounds like hehe on second reading... but no, this thing is really great... I'm fully convinced. you really should give it a go. but don't do it unless you got some high speed lan. it should work very good with firewire, but I got gigabit lan. Don't know what's better, you have to try. With gigabit it's running very good [512 - 1024 samples latency, as many vst the other comp can handle ))) ] |
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 13:48
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nice
i am thinking about building second pc only for internet stuff, but then i could use it also for producing. Even a slow pc can handle some nice synth or reverbs and could give some room with the daw cpu and ram.
Thanks for the info
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 16:50
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I've used FX Teleport before, but I had problems getting it to run reliably - I'm interested to see that sideFXed doesn't have these problems! Also it does really clutter up your VST plugins list with duplicated 'remote' entries for teleported FX.
An alternative solution (and the one I favour) is a VST plugin called Wormhole2, which acts as a single-direction or bi-directional network audio connection (with full network and plugin latency compensation in bi-directional mode). You still edit your plugins on the remote screen, but you need to be careful to save your slave project (probably in something like VSTack) somewhere where you'll find it again; I have a folder in my project folder called "Slave PC files" which contains this.
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sideFXed
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 18:16
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Actually I only got one vsti plugin (chainer) and one vstfx (waves) folder additionally in my Vst selection folder in cubase. As I already described it's way more intelligent to use chainer, so you don't introduce new latency from teleporting vst and use vstfx again on the sequencer. With this setup, everything gets saved with the project file in cubase. No hassle, error-free. Now my only problem is my girl playing World of Warcraft every free minute
If you guys do want me to post some screenshots of my 4 monitor setup, ask... I'll post!
cya and have fun making music... the most important thing...
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the daleks
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Posted : Nov 25, 2005 09:24
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sideFXed
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Posted : Nov 25, 2005 20:04
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well actually there's not much to see on the screen... kinda hard to show you what's happening on all my 4 screens. basically it's the same as you open all the plugins on one machine, instead you're running them on different systems. to see all the plugins you need something like VNC Viewer.
I'm gonna try to make some intelligent pictures over the weekend.
btw this think keeps getting better. there are no limits any more performance wise! |
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Milosh
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Posted : Nov 27, 2005 03:29
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Just one question:
Isn't it bether to buy one AMD or INTEL 64bit machine with some 2gb RAM then buying 4 PC and linking to work like one.... One fast PC = 4 slow
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Milosh
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Posted : Nov 27, 2005 22:49
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Yes in his case Ok. I will try this too just one question is it bether to do it with fire wire or LAN... wich way is more reliable?
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sideFXed
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 04:04
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dude, I'm talking about a vst farm, not hooking up a cheapass computer ever worked with 3d software? things like 3dsmax or vue esprit do have network rendering options...
sorry, but what does your strange behaviour of disabling every lan adapter in your computers add to this thread? I mean get a good firewall or disconnect your daw from the net if you're so paranoid. there is little to no hit on the cpu when you got multiple lan adapters. What differs is startup-time of ms operating systems.
I'm not sure if an amd 4800+ x2 cpu could beat 4x amd 4800+ x2 linked via a gigabit switch. you do the math.
atleast give it a try and come back to suggest buying a new computer... add some good points and I'll give you my thoughts. |
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kirna
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Posted : Dec 4, 2005 05:37
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On 2005-12-04 04:04, sideFXed wrote:
dude, I'm talking about a vst farm, not hooking up a cheapass computer ever worked with 3d software? things like 3dsmax or vue esprit do have network rendering options...
sorry, but what does your strange behaviour of disabling every lan adapter in your computers add to this thread? I mean get a good firewall or disconnect your daw from the net if you're so paranoid. there is little to no hit on the cpu when you got multiple lan adapters. What differs is startup-time of ms operating systems.
I'm not sure if an amd 4800+ x2 cpu could beat 4x amd 4800+ x2 linked via a gigabit switch. you do the math.
atleast give it a try and come back to suggest buying a new computer... add some good points and I'll give you my thoughts.
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haha, sorry for being smart-assy but ....
how much costs 1x AMD 4800+ x2 cpu or how much costs 4x AMD 4800+ x2 cpu... do the math? or who the fuck could ever use all the power of 4x 4800+ x2 cpu... in psytrance production to be precise  |
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