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Future Ducks of London - Why Psytrance has Become Shit

OzMike
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Posted : May 28, 2013 09:11
Loud definitely much better now than in the past. The Oforia remix of their track on Flight 604 is really tasty cheese, not like their old stuff.





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Posted : May 28, 2013 09:41
Ten DO NOT Rules of Psy-Trance Production

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/production-techniques/getting-started/ten-do-not-rules-psy-trance-production-131526/

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Posted : May 28, 2013 11:12
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Posted : May 28, 2013 12:59

viva Palestine arrogant motherfuckers
fuck off
Nectarios
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Posted : May 28, 2013 13:33
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On 2013-05-27 23:59, shahar wrote:
5-1. Not bad, eh?
This remix is quite old, btw...



5-1 is a good ratio that justifies hypocrisy?
I can count on one hand the tunes they did that did not bore me to skip through the track, regardless this whole psy-trance connection to these kind of elements, has gotten very old and bad humour, with a twist of hypocrisy, sure don't help to make the situation any better.

But whatever, if this "stunt" gets them more publicity, I guess its good for them...although there are a lot of people that are slagging them off for this bad joke, as there are a lot of people that have ears and find what they are slagging off, in their tunes.

LSDance remix was one of their more well known tracks, and they go on in saying that triplets are one of the reasons psy-trance is shit.
Talk about a boomerang coming back at you.
          
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Fakso
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Posted : May 28, 2013 14:37
more prog than psytrance I'd say

Had a bright smile on my face when watching, I don't agree that everything said and showed there is shit, I like triplets and bassline variation alot as it has some kind of leveling within the track, or a break with the same loop again then, hey afterall lot of electronic dance music relies on repetition but yeah maybe to predictable
and yes the vengeance samples things is really true, there are some cool samples I like to listen again in other tracks, like a sample competition among producers a friend of mine said

well the video has some serious and also true points but isn't meant serious afterall I guess
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pr0fane
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Posted : May 28, 2013 14:39
Their recent release with Astrix also has a somewhat generic offbeat bassline. For my taste Loud is a bit hit or miss - maybe because they have a quite varied sound - but they have made some outstanding tracks over the years.

The fact that they have used/abused these tricks themselves actually makes it self-irony and not hypocrisy in my book.

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Martian Arts

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Posted : May 28, 2013 14:42
Self Irony would have been fine if the clip said 10 reasons why LOUD's music is shit.

This clip is not even related to psy-trance.

Hypocrisy and attention whoring at its finest, in my book.           
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shahar
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Posted : May 28, 2013 14:47
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On 2013-05-28 13:33, Nectarios wrote:

LSDance remix was one of their more well known tracks, and they go on in saying that triplets are one of the reasons psy-trance is shit.
Talk about a boomerang coming back at you.





That's not what they are saying. They are saying that copy/paste, formulaic music, and no innovation and creativity are not the way to go.
You might not like Loud, and that is cool, but they are very innovative, they keep changing, keep experimenting and trying new directions. Non of their releases are the same.           ---------------------------------------------
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shahar
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Posted : May 28, 2013 14:50
And why are you all so worked up, anyway?
Most people seem to get the joke and think about the massage and there are some very interesting conversations about it around the web.
Seems like something good to me.           ---------------------------------------------
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Nectarios
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Posted : May 28, 2013 14:50
Quote:

On 2013-05-28 14:47, shahar wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-05-28 13:33, Nectarios wrote:

LSDance remix was one of their more well known tracks, and they go on in saying that triplets are one of the reasons psy-trance is shit.
Talk about a boomerang coming back at you.





That's not what they are saying. They are saying that copy/paste, formulaic music, and no innovation and creativity are not the way to go.
You might not like Loud, and that is cool, but they are very innovative, they keep changing, keep experimenting and trying new directions. Non of their releases are the same.



Its not what they are saying? Have you watched the clip? Triplets and gated samples are 2 reasons "psy-trance" is shit.

Then listen to their remix of LSDance.
Its plain and simple.

P.S. their music is varied, fair enough, even if I don't like most of it. The subject at hand is LOUD claiming reasons that "psy-trance" is shit and they them selves do the same shit.
          
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 28, 2013 14:52
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Martian Arts

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Posted : May 28, 2013 14:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jflxiToZCSQ
Dub Delay, Off Beat, Break when you wanna dance, The same loop comes back in...getting closer to 10...






          
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Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : May 28, 2013 15:11
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On 2013-05-28 14:50, shahar wrote:
And why are you all so worked up, anyway?
Most people seem to get the joke and think about the massage and there are some very interesting conversations about it around the web.
Seems like something good to me.



Because people link that stuff to psy-trance...its gotten old now. I like a good piss take like that UK article on a psy-trance night out. This is bad humor and its not good to me at all. The message is just plain wrong, this is not psy-trance they are talking about, its their own music and their own music, is not psy-trance...not most of it anyway.
          
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Fakso
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Posted : May 28, 2013 15:27
Quote:

On 2013-05-28 14:50, shahar wrote:
Most people seem to get the joke and think about the massage and there are some very interesting conversations about it around the web.
Seems like something good to me.




Yeah could be, maybe leads so some new sounds which would be nice
Personally it reminds me to build my own sample bank

Nectarios is right, it's linked to psy trance but this is not psy it's some newer cool groovy kind of progressive, personally I like the formula but yeah it's used too often by everyone, some changes here and there could be very nice
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