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psylevation
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Posted : Jul 3, 2007 04:31
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fear & laziness have both been things that have gotten in the way of me moving forward! I struggle with them every day, but I seem to be getting better at dealing with them and not letting them effect me as much...
Good quote, I love that movie 
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 3, 2007 14:57
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We all struggle with our fears every day. To say any different would simply be a lie.
Laziness thou has a purpose in it self but often we tend to use it as an excuse for not facing our fears. Once we start creating our own experience and stop feeling afraid than laziness should kick in and help us recognize that being human is a matter of simply being rather than doing.
The only thing we should fear is the fear it self.
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Jul 3, 2007 15:37
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On 2007-07-03 14:57, shamantrixx wrote:
The only thing we should fear is the fear it self.
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I agree, and I try to live by that notion, sometimes doing things that I'm shit-scared of in order to overcome the fear.
However, I think it should be said that fear has a purpose in itself too... again as a mechanism to improve our chances of survival. Our common fear of various animals (poisonous insects, large predators) for instance has been shown not to be immediately caused by the environment but instead built into our genetics over thousands of years. Someone who is not afraid of anything is not a very sensible decision-maker.
In our modern society where food, shelter and safety is not much of a concern the survival concepts get somewhat twisted. When the basic needs are fulfilled it seems that social exclusion is the worst that could happen to us (we are a group species and exclusion essentially means that other group members do not view one as a worthy member). Perhaps this is the reason why many people have great fear of things like public speaking, embarrassment in front of others, not coping with their job or whatever..
Would be interesting to see what turns this will have taken a few more thousand years down the line... eh... we probably nuked ourselves by then anyway  |
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 3, 2007 18:28
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The way I see it fear is a trigger emotion for activating "fight or flight" mechanism when our lives are in danger. So even in the context of survival fear should last for a few seconds during which we should decide how to react. Loud and unexpected noises for instance always cause such brief fear but usually we recognize the source of sound and that fear goes away even before we start to feel afraid.
But in our "modern" world we often find our self in situations where fear can last for hours, days, months. This is really abnormal behavior because fear should only trigger our decision making. But if our daily work is causing our fear (of getting fired or something like that) we cant nether fight nor flight because we feel that our survival depends on our work. If we're attached to some romantic relationship and feel afraid of being left behind we also don't have appropriate reaction to replace the fear.
In the end most people will try to ignore the fear and thus replace it with the stress. Ignoring daily fear requires that we get busy with something else in order to stop thinking about fears. This is the root of all addictions regardless of what we're addicted to. Drugs, soap operas, weekend parties, relationships, parents... it's all the same. Day by day we become more and more unconscious until finally we fall asleep. In the end addictions result in even more fear (of loosing addictions) and than we're on a road to nowhere.
I agree that it would be interesting to see where this would end, but I feel that the end is very near and will be seen in our life time. Funny, but more I think about it more relaxed and calm I feel about it.
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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ess765
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Posted : Jul 3, 2007 20:53
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I m amazed how did this topic developed...
As I said before, the most important in this video is not if the track sounds cool or not, if there ll be listeners to apreciate it, if Ansolas will ever be recognized by his music. The important here is his happiness during composing music. How music transport him to a happy land. I don t know if his a happy guy (I bet he his) but anyway, music is giving him a real nice moment.
That s what s art is all about. When you complain about the crowd I totally disagree. It s too complicated for an artist to blame the crowd for not understanding his music. I never think about who ll listen to my tracks. I m really concerned 100% in expressing my feelings only. As I said, if those feelings will ever touch people s heart and sould that s up to them. I m not worried. That s why only a few people in music history were unanimously talented. They expressed their feelings no matter how advanced they were to their current era.
Although I agree that mass comunication tools use to try to brain wash people (and they succeed), I d tell you that there are very few people that are really talented enough to shine in a special way, among the millions that are trying. It has always being like this and will always be.
Most of people that claim to be not understood, are assuming a position as if they were good enough to be a success. And I rmost of their cases, when I listen to teheir tracks, they are not telling me nothing. They only feel being good, but maybe they re not as good as they think. Or maybe they re good anough, but they will only be understood later. That s life. The more you try to predict things, the more life will surprise you.
So Ansolas, I d like to repeat one more time for you:
this video is important not to begin a discussion of how poor is the crowd s taste. It s important for everyone to understand why music can modifie our moments in such a positive way. So, I respect everything that has beeing said here so far, but lets focus on this videos message.
And the message is that to make anyone happy, we got to be the first ones to be happy with our music. If you ever compose a track worried about if it will be a hit, or if the poor quality crowd will understand you I can give you an advice:
delete the whole track(even from the trash), open a new project and make a new tune with your heart and soul....
Leave those concerns about crowd aproval to those labels producers that are always looking for money producing anything else but art....
Ess765 (aka Physical Absence)
Visit me at my project s page at:
www.myspace.com/physicalabsence
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 00:19
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When you complain about the crowd I totally disagree. It s too complicated for an artist to blame the crowd for not understanding his music.
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ess765: You bring up some very valid points here, but I think you're filling in the blanks a bit too happily
I never talked about artists blaming the crowd for not understanding their art.
I was merely making the point that it is every indiviual's personal responsibility to develop their understanding and appreciation of art. Of course one has the right not to, and that's fine, but the issue - and this is my personal opinion - is that the society we live in does not encourage people to make that journey. Rather the opposite, it invites us to give in to our laziness and our fears thus resulting in the behaviour shamantrixx describes in the above post.
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In the end most people will try to ignore the fear and thus replace it with the stress. Ignoring daily fear requires that we get busy with something else in order to stop thinking about fears. This is the root of all addictions regardless of what we're addicted to. Drugs, soap operas, weekend parties, relationships, parents... it's all the same. Day by day we become more and more unconscious until finally we fall asleep. In the end addictions result in even more fear (of loosing addictions) and than we're on a road to nowhere.
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Have you seen the movie 'What the bleep do we know'? They bring up exactly this behaviour, but describe it from the viewpoint of chemical reactions in our brain.
How to combat it? Difficult, but one comes a long way with the realization that you can shape your day (and your life) rather than being a victim to your surroundings...
I could be wrong, but I believe one of the people in that movie said that he tried to do something NEW every day, so that it would sink into his mind that he was actively making choices that shaped his life. Very interesting, if a bit mind-boggling stuff! |
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 03:17
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I've seen "what the bleep" and it has some nice ideas but most of them are quite old (quantum stuff, holistic universe etc.). What I find of great importance in that movie is the notion of quantum entanglement of both human consciousness and unconsciousness. Making something NEW not only changes your life but it in fact changes ALL the life.
You HAVE to be the change you want to see in the world. What you alone can do is not much, but it is of GREATEST importance to make that little choice for it will reflect on all the life and set the example for those around you. So here we've come a full circle to this video from Ansolas. What he has experienced in making a choice to make something NEW has affected not only him... this entire conversation spring out of his experience by virtue of mirroring the emotion and state of awareness he have shared with us.
So in a way this topic is an example of entangled consciousness. Funny to see that we needed the "world wide web" to help us articulate the metaphore for what the world wide awareness really is 
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ansolas
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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 13:00
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Making something NEW not only changes your life but it in fact changes ALL the life. You HAVE to be the change you want to see in the world. What you alone can do is not much, but it is of GREATEST importance to make that little choice for it will reflect on all the life and set the example for those around you.
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Heya, Bleep reminds you to some nice viewpoints, I loved that state of mind after watching it.
I think a great number of people KNOW how the MAGIC works, but they loose the magic mindset when they not continiously deal with such kind of mindstates. I know that behaviour from myself. Its like seeing the goal straigt in front of you, but for some reason you choose the way to the right, catch some other expressions and than come back to goal view.
May all being be happy!
ansolas
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 15:36
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May all being be happy!
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I have to correct you because happy exists only as a contrast of sad. If we ware all equally happy than nobody would be happy because of a certain emotional flatness. So I agree with you but I would wish all being to be well and let personal fulfillment be the core of individual satisfaction
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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ansolas
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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 16:44
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On 2007-07-04 13:00, ansolas wrote:
May all being be happy!
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I have to correct you because happy exists only as a contrast of sad. If we ware all equally happy than nobody would be happy because of a certain emotional flatness. So I agree with you but I would wish all being to be well and let personal fulfillment be the core of individual satisfaction
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...thats why I used the word "may"
and think about all of "whom"
Its "all" relative.
"anything is possible and nothing is true"
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shamantrixx
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Posted : Jul 4, 2007 18:27
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Please excuse me for not understanding such subtle differences since english is a foreign language to me. Obviously there was no need for correction of any kind so once again sorry for that misunderstanding
"It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception"
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ansolas
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Posted : Jul 5, 2007 01:35
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On 2007-07-04 18:27, shamantrixx wrote:
Please excuse me for not understanding such subtle differences since english is a foreign language to me. Obviously there was no need for correction of any kind so once again sorry for that misunderstanding
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english is foreing for me too (:
I think nobody is happy all the time, but you have always the choice of your main direction.
love and light
ansolas |
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