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loki
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Posted : Apr 24, 2012 23:11:55
Been playing around with this a lot lately - thought I'd share if anyone is bored and looking for ideas:

1) Make a melody line using your favourite lead synth. Plenty of modwheel, velocity play, creative midi editing etc is a bonus.

2) Bounce, throw it in a new track. Mute the audio file for now.

3) Change the synth patch and/or the vst in the original midi channel - something completely different, for kicks. Fuck, preset surfing is even fine here.

4) Repeat steps 2 and 3 as many times as you like; I usually do about 5-8 or so, but I've done as much as 12 with good results.

5) Mute (or delete, if you want) the original synth channel, and cut up each of your bounces with scissors into little 16th or 8th note slices. Alt+Shift+Click with scissors on the first 16th note division in Logic will make quick work of this.

6) You should at this point have 5 or 8 or however many different iterations of the same melody, in entirely different timbres, each in their own channel, cut up into little clips - all muted for now. Now the fun part:

7) Unmute a couple clips at different points in the song, from different channels (I start fairly randomly). Play around, unmuting different clips, with only 1 or 2 playing at any given time. Do this until you are happy with the groove.

If all is done well, you should have a glitched-out, very psychedelicized, timbre shifting version of the original melody, which should still be coherent.

Now play with panning, delay and reverb sends, FX, etc on each of the different channels. Add additional stutter-edit goodness as desired: reverse, fade in, stutter individual audio clips.

If you want an example of how it sounds, check out 4:20 in this track:





And - if you want me to make a video, well, fuck off then. Or tell me how - I'm lazy.           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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makus
Overdream

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Posted : Apr 24, 2012 23:20
Quote:

On 2012-04-24 23:11:55, loki wrote:

And - if you want me to make a video, well, fuck off then. Or tell me how - I'm lazy.




andy vax did that in his 'Answers' video, if im not mistaking. however he altered the lead timbre with guitar rig.           
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D7uan
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Posted : Apr 24, 2012 23:33
sounds good gonna give this a try......but seriously MAKE A VIDEO!!! lol just kidding, love your subtelty by the way...fuck off!! lol
Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Apr 24, 2012 23:42
Great track           For Contact & Bookings:
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supergroover
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Posted : Apr 25, 2012 00:04
Tom Cosm has a video about exactly this.. too lazy to search. But youtube should be your friend.
Or just buy his video's on http://www.cosm.co.nz/
Great buy with lots of info on production and especially ableton.           soundcloud.com/supergroover
loki
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Posted : Apr 25, 2012 00:12
Tom Cosm is the shit! If i used ableton I'd be such a fanboy. Not that his ideas aren't applicable elsewhere - it's just that he does a lot of ableton specific tricks, or stuff for live sets, etc.

Now - when I start playing out live more, I'll be begging him to come out with MORE material, hehe.           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Apr 25, 2012 04:41
Yoo loki pretty cool trick!
Reminds me the "sphonglizing drum loops" 3ad witch was now buried in this blue pages

Also randomize button is our friend in this very pourpose
3 or more with the same synth is fine, over 6-7 you're fucking crazy! but we have digital, we have daw and endless sound palettes at our hand
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loki
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Posted : Apr 25, 2012 05:11
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but we have digital, we have daw and endless sound palettes at our hand
the limit is only human now




True that.           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
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hip
Shuma

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Posted : Apr 25, 2012 13:26
Mate, that track is awesome!
Respect.

Are you releasing your music somewhere? Cos you should.
I've checked your soundcloud, all of your tunes are great, keep 'em coming           http://www.myspace.com/shumamusic
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Soma_Happiens


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Posted : Apr 25, 2012 14:01
Thanks for the tip, mate, and yea, pretty kool track you have here best wishes           In A Society That Has Abolished All Adventure The Only Adventure That Remains Is To Abolish Society
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loki
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Posted : Apr 25, 2012 21:27
Quote:

On 2012-04-25 13:26, hip wrote:
Mate, that track is awesome!
Respect.

Are you releasing your music somewhere? Cos you should.
I've checked your soundcloud, all of your tunes are great, keep 'em coming




Shit, I just posted this for good karma, to give other people ideas because I have writer's block and already spent 4 or 5 hours on reddit yesterday - I wasn't expecting compliments on the track. But thanks dude! I'll release shit eventually. I want to get shit professionally mastered first, but would rather spend my precious summer income on fine dining, patio beers and food giveaways at festivals. Maybe come autumn...           Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. ~Kurt Vonnegut
www.soundcloud.com/mixyott
Ampersand

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Posted : Apr 25, 2012 23:06
Thanks for sharing, it sounds great in your track!
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