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Full on/power trance VS DArk/psy trance. vote!!

CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Jun 24, 2008 15:43
doing parties is not my job its yours

and i am not dissing what u do
I just make some reccomendations to a person who,at least to me,knows what he does in order to make this music live a bit longer.
why ie. instead of u-recken-max-papason which had an attendance of 800 people
u try a penta-max-papason which will conclude to 1200 people?
since you are a proffecional u should open your ears to the people's demand and do something for all of us?


          Helicon Sounds Music
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MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Jun 24, 2008 15:52
we live in 2008 go with the flow
DETOX
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Posted : Jun 24, 2008 16:49
Well actually doing parties is nobodys job since everybody can do a party and to be honest its not doing any quantum physics,organising a party is simpler than many people think.I started without having a clue and when internet was not so popular,today with the new technology and constant flow of information everybody can make a party so i cant see why you and your mates couldnt organise a big dark psy event in a club.

Me i am not seeing doing parties as a job,i just get involved with them because i like the whole thing plus i want to promote the music i like and express the creative part of myself through the organisation process.No fame and no money through parties in Greece.

About the line ups it was u recken-doc-papason and max-chakra so i guess u meant either max-penta or penta and just the greek guests.I seriously doubt that penta just with greek guests could gather 600-700 people,with max its another story.

Through the times i have booked various artists from Parasense and Menog to Texas Faggot and Sun Project and more.Apart Parasense that were very popular for some time in Greece the rest of the artists had just a small cult following of 40-50 people but were not popular with the majority of the party people.Its like Prometheus i guess,i think that the guy is the greatest producer of the psytrance scene and somehow the whole forum (including the greek section) loves him but when he came to Athens the event was a flop with just 200-250 people coming to listen to him.I am in favour of diversity but from my experience i have seen that the greek crowd still likes the artists that they used to listen many years ago (autous kseroume autous empisteuomaste san to altis ena pragma) so if thats what they like then i guess this is what they will get.

And this is a trend not only in psy trance but in every kind of music,i remember couple of years ago when i expected Kraftwerk and Aphex Twin concerts in Athens and i hoped that they would be great success both of them and that people would support an organiser who dared to invite them in our country but although the internet was full of positive messages when the time came for the people to show their support the Kraftwerk concert was a financial failure and the Aphex Twin event got cancelled due to low tickets presale.

Whoever is able and ready to face such risks he is free to experiment with new names and then we will see if me or you dear CRX are right about the situation in Greece.Me i am doing what i am believing in and i am not willing to experiment especially with music styles that not only i dont like but i also dont believe at all in them.I experimented with people i liked like Prometheus for example but i saw the results and i guess that was enough for me.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Jun 24, 2008 16:53
i dont think greek artists care alot what is going on in greece and about promoters there goal is to play
in internation countries and make money
and have respect.....
CRX(HSS Records)
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jun 24, 2008 17:20
Quote:

On 2008-06-24 16:49, DETOX wrote:
Well actually doing parties is nobodys job since everybody can do a party and to be honest its not doing any quantum physics,organising a party is simpler than many people think.I started without having a clue and when internet was not so popular,today with the new technology and constant flow of information everybody can make a party so i cant see why you and your mates couldnt organise a big dark psy event in a club.

Me i am not seeing doing parties as a job,i just get involved with them because i like the whole thing plus i want to promote the music i like and express the creative part of myself through the organisation process.No fame and no money through parties in Greece.

About the line ups it was u recken-doc-papason and max-chakra so i guess u meant either max-penta or penta and just the greek guests.I seriously doubt that penta just with greek guests could gather 600-700 people,with max its another story.

Through the times i have booked various artists from Parasense and Menog to Texas Faggot and Sun Project and more.Apart Parasense that were very popular for some time in Greece the rest of the artists had just a small cult following of 40-50 people but were not popular with the majority of the party people.Its like Prometheus i guess,i think that the guy is the greatest producer of the psytrance scene and somehow the whole forum (including the greek section) loves him but when he came to Athens the event was a flop with just 200-250 people coming to listen to him.I am in favour of diversity but from my experience i have seen that the greek crowd still likes the artists that they used to listen many years ago (autous kseroume autous empisteuomaste san to altis ena pragma) so if thats what they like then i guess this is what they will get.

And this is a trend not only in psy trance but in every kind of music,i remember couple of years ago when i expected Kraftwerk and Aphex Twin concerts in Athens and i hoped that they would be great success both of them and that people would support an organiser who dared to invite them in our country but although the internet was full of positive messages when the time came for the people to show their support the Kraftwerk concert was a financial failure and the Aphex Twin event got cancelled due to low tickets presale.

Whoever is able and ready to face such risks he is free to experiment with new names and then we will see if me or you dear CRX are right about the situation in Greece.Me i am doing what i am believing in and i am not willing to experiment especially with music styles that not only i dont like but i also dont believe at all in them.I experimented with people i liked like Prometheus for example but i saw the results and i guess that was enough for me.



don't think that we lust for a dark psy massive party in a club
most of us have our own way to have fun at sunny beaches or in natural schemes
but it would be nice to hear some really heavy names of the scene in a big club with a 25kw soundsystem every now and then
anyway that's my point of view and you have yours and everybody has his own etc etc etc
cheers
          Helicon Sounds Music
www.hssr.gr
Nyarlathotep


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Posted : Jun 24, 2008 20:35
The discussion is somewhat out of the topic original purpose but i want to add something.I cant accept that in Salonica people call osom,kindzadza,psykovsky and we cant here in Athens.If these DJs/bands get the support in Salonica i guess here in Athens/Pireus we can get the same amount if not more.
Ofcourse i dont know how many people that party gathered since i wasnt there but yeah like i said i just expressed an opinion
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Dj Dino aka Mindwash-SoundKraft rec. au
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Posted : Aug 1, 2008 19:30
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Z.XPERIMENT


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Posted : Aug 2, 2008 03:38
i vote for 2 not only cause i like this new sounds at 2008 that were living but also because in the entire world everybody knows and full respect GREEK PSY and when they mention GREEK PSY they mean darkpsy that with them greece have there own stile in music development from ZIK aka matutero that estamblised that with his dark sounds and the faster bpm that the whole world followed and then lots of greek artists that put that level higher like polyphonia,orestis,stranger,claw,tromo,drury nevil and many more .......see at : http://forum.isratrance.com/the-dark-psychedelic-trance-artists-of-greece/
and everybody will understand the good that this GREEK PSY did to greece.thanx for reading this.and also i understand that some people cant handle the faster bpm cause its relative with their lives.if its too fast for you then youre too old.haha.osa den ftanei i alepou ta kani kremastaria

Be as a light that shines in a dark place!
psyberadio


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Posted : Aug 2, 2008 12:50
dark psy .......           www.psyberadio.com
DR SAMMY
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Posted : Aug 2, 2008 12:57
Goa Trance Guys!!!
Dark in the night
Full on in the morning
Progresive at the afternoun....!!!

Love & Light
We must stay united until the end...

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Posted : Aug 2, 2008 16:02
50 % Dark Psy
50 % Full On

u have my vote
DeNiA


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Posted : Aug 2, 2008 17:20
Quote:

On 2008-08-02 03:38, Z.XPERIMENT wrote:
i vote for 2 not only cause i like this new sounds at 2008 that were living but also because in the entire world everybody knows and full respect GREEK PSY and when they mention GREEK PSY they mean darkpsy that with them greece have there own stile in music development from ZIK aka matutero that estamblised that with his dark sounds and the faster bpm that the whole world followed and then lots of greek artists that put that level higher like polyphonia,orestis,stranger,claw,tromo,drury nevil and many more .......see at : http://forum.isratrance.com/the-dark-psychedelic-trance-artists-of-greece/
and everybody will understand the good that this GREEK PSY did to greece.thanx for reading this.and also i understand that some people cant handle the faster bpm cause its relative with their lives.if its too fast for you then youre too old.haha.osa den ftanei i alepou ta kani kremastaria

Be as a light that shines in a dark place!



+1
I totally agree with Z.experiment :]
I believe that dark is the future of psychedelic..
So I vote for dark, too..but it is obvious that it's also a matter of personal taste.
No hard feelings for those who prefer full-on.. *We are one*           Live. Love. Be. Believe.
Dj Dino aka Mindwash-SoundKraft rec. au
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Posted : Aug 2, 2008 19:25
Quote:

On 2008-08-02 17:20, DeNiA wrote:
Quote:

On 2008-08-02 03:38, Z.XPERIMENT wrote:
i vote for 2 not only cause i like this new sounds at 2008 that were living but also because in the entire world everybody knows and full respect GREEK PSY and when they mention GREEK PSY they mean darkpsy that with them greece have there own stile in music development from ZIK aka matutero that estamblised that with his dark sounds and the faster bpm that the whole world followed and then lots of greek artists that put that level higher like polyphonia,orestis,stranger,claw,tromo,drury nevil and many more .......see at : http://forum.isratrance.com/the-dark-psychedelic-trance-artists-of-greece/
and everybody will understand the good that this GREEK PSY did to greece.thanx for reading this.and also i understand that some people cant handle the faster bpm cause its relative with their lives.if its too fast for you then youre too old.haha.osa den ftanei i alepou ta kani kremastaria

Be as a light that shines in a dark place!



+1
I totally agree with Z.experiment :]
I believe that dark is the future of psychedelic..
So I vote for dark, too..but it is obvious that it's also a matter of personal taste.
No hard feelings for those who prefer full-on.. *We are one*





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i aggree with you.Its mater of taste...
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uforica025
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Posted : Aug 3, 2008 06:36
Quote:

On 2008-06-22 10:34, movek wrote:
well my favs
were allways they who mix the styles ..

you don't expect the un~expected



Black_Sun


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Posted : Aug 3, 2008 11:00
Quote:

On 2008-08-02 03:38, Z.XPERIMENT wrote:
i vote for 2 not only cause i like this new sounds at 2008 that were living but also because in the entire world everybody knows and full respect GREEK PSY and when they mention GREEK PSY they mean darkpsy that with them greece have there own stile in music development from ZIK aka matutero that estamblised that with his dark sounds and the faster bpm that the whole world followed and then lots of greek artists that put that level higher like polyphonia,orestis,stranger,claw,tromo,drury nevil and many more .......see at : http://forum.isratrance.com/the-dark-psychedelic-trance-artists-of-greece/
and everybody will understand the good that this GREEK PSY did to greece.thanx for reading this.and also i understand that some people cant handle the faster bpm cause its relative with their lives.if its too fast for you then youre too old.haha.osa den ftanei i alepou ta kani kremastaria

Be as a light that shines in a dark place!

my friend Z-xperiment as an answer to your comments for what is psy i have to say only one thing that psy for sure isnt only darkpsy as you know i like very much darkpsy but i like psytrance for ex.nano rec and many other nice and tripy sounds from other artists i dont want to say names but im sure you know many artist psytrance artist* so keep your opinion for yourself and dont say that all the ppl who dont like dark psy dont know anything about music and also i thing we have to respect all the kinds. thats my opinion
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