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gill
Melorix

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Posted : Jun 19, 2005 15:38
Ok, I'm allready thinking about this for a long time. And I know there are a lot.
My question is: who uses fruityloops and allready released something?
I know Wizack Twizack, Paranoize, ... use fruityloops.
My question is very clear I think
So anyone?

Btw I use Fruityloops too , and I'm doing it allready for a long time (5 years)
It is possible
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S.D6 (Yakir .B.)
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  575
Posted : Jun 19, 2005 22:16
you can release your music useing every sequencer...
but you must have a good music and sound....
as you wrote a lot of artist's use the fruity loops so it's possible
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 02:10
i did.

but i use also nordlead exept vst's and fruity plugins.

today im standing before couple of more realeses (soon).

i also using cubase for final edit & mix (waves infront of your eyes matter alot.. most fruity users delay will continue more then they notice..).beside that just finnished VS track on cubase with fl vst.
also worked in logic for those purposes and made whole track with that.

for me, fruity is the best sequencer around.
as far as midi options and sampling for wavs.. more then anyone can ask for.

now the never ending story .. sound quality.. please who have CD of schizm tell me what it sound like if there is any problems (consider it made in 2003 and i never knew i should save unmaster version so they got it limited ) for me after i heard first time my own track after pro master it was amazing.totaly "open" sound also very warm. here is the real deal... u make music , sound engineer make sound. its ok to maximaize your track for friends and playing on party , but , u wanna be good sound engineer?u must be 10 years in the business i think just for the expirience with all this (various speakers , mics , acoustics , electricity , etc.)

more artist realesed with fl:

texas faggott
suria
psycho micro (first track on parvati)
squaremeat
benza (?)
sienis
optical human (debut realese soon)

and btw 1 more opinion on sound quality:
its exelent. need to adjust levels most of the time again in cubase for perfect result and adding some fx's. sound better sure but thats because of the time and extra efford u put in the track.
if working 24 bit its major diffrence with 256 sync on export (hq for all plugins)also if u know how to use compressor properly (one who open fruity compressor presets please dont count yourselve in this - most beginers turn to fl and sound shity but not because of fruity..)
the only "bug" i found is when cliping abit (+1 dB) it can export 0 db. which means some compression made. but if not clip it doesnt, so its helping tool for unexpirienced users as much as disturbing "pro" user.



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psychotic_neuroscientist
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  422
Posted : Jun 20, 2005 09:13
Quote:

ow the never ending story .. sound quality.. please who have CD of schizm tell me what it sound like if there is any problems (consider it made in 2003 and i never knew i should save unmaster version so they got it limited ) for me after i heard first time my own track after pro master it was amazing.totaly "open" sound also very warm. here is the real deal... u make music , sound engineer make sound. its ok to maximaize your track for friends and playing on party , but , u wanna be good sound engineer?u must be 10 years in the business i think just for the expirience with all this (various speakers , mics , acoustics , electricity , etc.)



          No... no more scientists, no more laboratories, no more experiments, I thought you`d be able to understand that. No more!
gill
Melorix

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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 13:48
Quote:

On 2005-06-20 02:10, tsabeat wrote:
beside that just finnished VS track on cubase with fl vst.
also worked in logic for those purposes and made whole track with that.



I suppose you rewire fruityloops in cubase and load it as a vst?

Quote:

now the never ending story .. sound quality.. please who have CD of schizm tell me what it sound like if there is any problems (consider it made in 2003 and i never knew i should save unmaster version so they got it limited ) for me after i heard first time my own track after pro master it was amazing.totaly "open" sound also very warm. here is the real deal... u make music , sound engineer make sound. its ok to maximaize your track for friends and playing on party , but , u wanna be good sound engineer?u must be 10 years in the business i think just for the expirience with all this (various speakers , mics , acoustics , electricity , etc.)


Quote:
and btw 1 more opinion on sound quality:
its exelent. need to adjust levels most of the time again in cubase for perfect result and adding some fx's. sound better sure but thats because of the time and extra efford u put in the track.



That's what they told me too
People and other simular artists think I have a secret
So is that the reason? Because it sounds warmer and more open? And I totally agree about the soundengineer, he will optimise your track. For people like us, it just is a mission impossible (except if you had a couple soundenginering lessons ... + those 10 years filled with experience).

Quote:

if working 24 bit its major diffrence with 256 sync on export (hq for all plugins)also if u know how to use compressor properly (one who open fruity compressor presets please dont count yourselve in this - most beginers turn to fl and sound shity but not because of fruity..)
the only "bug" i found is when cliping abit (+1 dB) it can export 0 db. which means some compression made. but if not clip it doesnt, so its helping tool for unexpirienced users as much as disturbing "pro" user.



Load it into cooledit, soundforge, wavelab or simular samplers and watch the soundwave. Look what sounds are too loud and then compress them?
Btw is it true that cubasers can see how their soundwave looks like, while making the track? That they can see if they put their hihats louder the soundwave will change and they can see that the hihats will be louder?

Adios
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Jun 20, 2005 17:19
Quote:

On 2005-06-20 13:48, gill wrote:
Load it into cooledit, soundforge, wavelab or simular samplers and watch the soundwave. Look what sounds are too loud and then compress them?
Btw is it true that cubasers can see how their soundwave looks like, while making the track? That they can see if they put their hihats louder the soundwave will change and they can see that the hihats will be louder?




1. no. keep your track below 0db all the time with volume . use waves paz to check it first b4 render.

2.if export to .wav so u can apply volume and see the wav get fatter or thiner yes. anyhow the mixer apply auto db meter to each channel (i preset in fruity manualy to be opened with db metter on wach channel > open new empty project > load db meters > save as > into templates folder > then open template > choose this one > it now apply evry time u open new file )           www.sattelbattle.com
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gill
Melorix

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Posts :  628
Posted : Jun 20, 2005 17:40
Quote:

On 2005-06-20 17:19, tsabeat wrote:
1. no. keep your track below 0db all the time with volume . use waves paz to check it first b4 render.

2.if export to .wav so u can apply volume and see the wav get fatter or thiner yes. anyhow the mixer apply auto db meter to each channel (i preset in fruity manualy to be opened with db metter on wach channel > open new empty project > load db meters > save as > into templates folder > then open template > choose this one > it now apply evry time u open new file )




@ 1. Thats what I mean . I just forgot to mention it
Just to look to the wave, not to change / compress / eq it
@ 2. Great idea!!! I'll add equalizers with it

Thx!
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orange
Fat Data

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Posts :  3918
Posted : Jun 21, 2005 00:12
and never use dither when you export audio full track or individual samples better without it .

and as already nicely mentioned keep ur track below 0db even if its gonna be only in the master turn it low -1 -2 db at least better on all sounds but master volume will do the trick exept if your sounds are way to loud over +4db so compression is realy noticeable.

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gill
Melorix

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Posts :  628
Posted : Jun 23, 2005 14:42
@ Orange: What do you mean by 'dither'?

Btw I'm working on a track in fruityloops now
Not only IN fruityloops but I'm using also ONLY standard samples / vst's / vsti's / ... (kick, bass, snare, ... )
It's a pretty difficult job, but I can see the result allready . It's not impossible you know. Once you realise how vst's work, it's not that difficult to make synths sounding how you want them to sound. The problem I noticed is that there is only one compressor in fruityloops. That compressor works good enough, but you can't compress for example only hi tones ...

Anyway here already is a piece of the result
Let me know what you people think about it ...
I'm very curious
Link: http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1I6HHUB6VUQ9H2FR7F6MXGCLJB

AND NO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE FRUITYSTANDARDSOUND AT ALL!!!
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EYB
Noized

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Posts :  2849
Posted : Jun 23, 2005 15:56
Most fruity native plugins, so the compressor, are designed by sontius fx. High quality            Signature
sy000321
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 23, 2005 15:59

Hey Gill, cool stuff


i've made this with frutty, vanguard, waves and mjrotodelay... http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/63195/forum/26/start/0

it's not bad either...

i've been told that many are releasing with FL Studio, speacially in the House, tecno, electro scene...

          roll a joint or STFU :)
The_Guardians_Of_Truth
Atma

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Posts :  379
Posted : Jun 24, 2005 01:05
I use Fruitty too. My new album is 100 % Fruity Loops, and i can tell that there is no difference between Fruity and Cubase for example.
If you are good in mastering, than there should be no difference in sound quallity between Fruitty, Cubase or Logic. All of them uses almost the same VST synths or Effects.
Ceyram


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Posts :  7
Posted : Jun 24, 2005 01:24
Hi there ... i'm one of other FL users
this is the best program for composing for me ... i use it almost 7 years
yes ... quality is not good ... but i learn to use compresors & eq ... so sound become stronger & ... BLAST
Before 2 mounths i use http://www.yohng.com/mb.html ... this is a great colection of mastering tools ... but now i use something better that must be try from every one FL user ... it is ...
http://www.etcetera.co.uk/products/YAM074.shtml
Good luck !!!
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