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fruity question: only 4 send effects???
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XrTC
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 18:45
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i have never encountered this problem before cos i simply didn't have to use more than 4 send effects when making music in the past. well the time has come now and i need a couple more send tracks to say the least! what am i supposed to do?...... 
fruity users HELP!!!
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XrTC
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bandarlog
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 22:15
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You can always route any channel to another one... or multiple channels to one. |
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thockin
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 22:46
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That's it. 4 sends. You can use Senderella, if you only send forward in the call graph. Otherwise, you do what I have been doing - beg them for more. Or get Energy XT and use that to split signals and rejoin them. |
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eliran17
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 23:56
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best options for my opinion:
- mixer routing
-work with two mixers
there are very power mixers on the web try send some of you chanell through it.
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thockin
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Posted : Jan 29, 2005 03:46
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eliran: in FL? FL's routing is one of it's worst aspects. You can't. |
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Elad
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Posted : Jan 29, 2005 05:31
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On 2005-01-29 03:46, thockin wrote:
eliran: in FL? FL's routing is one of it's worst aspects. You can't.
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why is that? routing works just fine to me...
and anyhow... u can use any INSERT as SEND!!
u have % which make your delay (for example) on 40 % u get 100% dry and 40% wet... hmmm seems to work as send! surprize
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EYB
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Posted : Jan 29, 2005 06:04
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Yeah right, but only four real sends.
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EYB
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Posted : Jan 29, 2005 06:06
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On 2005-01-29 03:46, thockin wrote:
eliran: in FL? FL's routing is one of it's worst aspects. You can't.
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thocking all right with u? u ever used fruity loops?
Of course u can route any channel to another, different channels to one, channels to different asio channels. The routing is very easy with fruity.
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thockin
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Posted : Jan 29, 2005 06:39
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EYB: ever tried to do anything more interesting than submastering? You can't.
I want to duplicate a signal to two tracks. One track is dry, the other is a delay with a phaser. I only want the delay tobe phased, not the dry signal. There's only one way to do that - a send. Only there are just 4 sends. They run out REALLY quickly.
No splitters, no extra sends, no true mono, nothing but stereo. Multi-out plugins are a hack at best.
Yeah, I've used FL Studio. I still say audio routing is one of it's weakest features. Try EnergyXT some time. |
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EYB
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Posted : Jan 29, 2005 08:35
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Thats all ok, u r right only 4 send tracks is not good, but u said:
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FL's routing is one of it's worst aspects. You can't.
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And for me there is now a big difference between ur two statements. But no problem i got now what u mean
But as tsabeat already said u can do this also with insert channels, but then u have to do different inserts if u want different amounts for dif. channels playing at the same time, else u need to automate for different amount.
I tried EnergyXT, but it is some time ago and the version i had was very buggy, ill try again. There is also a similar vst i used, but i forgot the name, if i remeber ill post it
So if u use EnergyXT u use it as insert, so u could do like said before with using the insert % knobs.
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Jan 29, 2005 10:14
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well for starte sonly 4 send fx tracks .... with no pre / post fader options !!
even like tsabeat said , u can use any effect as a insert and use it like a send with the percentage knob .... still u cant again determine if it is pre /post fader or if it can run parallel to the inserts fx chain .....
so imo fruity is really lame for pro mixing !
no offence ...but thts wat i really feel |
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Protouch
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XrTC
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Posted : Jan 29, 2005 15:23
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ok, i know how routing works in fruity, i route most of my channels to 3-4 others containing HP filters (or LP sometimes) before they go to the Master channel. i have also used this function when i need to use more than 8 insert effects on one channel.
but my problem is a totally different one. u can't use insert effects (even with the percentage knob) as sends simply because: when using an effect as an insert, the percentage knob determines how much of the signal will be processed and the output is an altered initial signal.
with send effect you have two different channels, one with the original signal (which remains unchanged) and one with the totally altered signal (on the send channel), and all the percentage knob does is mix (add) the altered signal to the initial one.
if you still don't get the difference, try achieving the "reverb on bass" technique with insert channel and with send channel: put a High-Pass Filter followed by a reverb in the insert effects chain (of your bassline mixer track) and tweak the percentage knobs. result? crap!
now, if you put the HPF + reverb on a send channel (e.g. SEND 1) and simply use the knob (in the bassline mixer track) that corresponds to SEND 1, you will see the difference it makes. and you will see why you CANNOT use insert effects as sends.........
all in all, what you are all saying is that i have to live with ONLY 4 sends? that sux...... isn't there a sort of plugin or smth i can use to add more sends to fruity? Protouch m8, what's this VST Coontrol you are talking about? any more info please?
p.s. i want to finish a track and i can't, just because i don't have any more free send channels. so u can imagine my frustration!
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Elad
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