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Fruity Loops for artists...
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diskOtek
Entek
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Posted : Jan 17, 2006 20:17
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yea tell us more about fl multi...
and also,why fl opened via cubase has time offset quarters??
in zero fl and cubase are synced so whats the use?
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lalala
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Posted : Jan 17, 2006 20:39
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when you select vst instruments > fruity multi >
then in fruity loops (in the output section for each channel) instead of selecting the individual outputs going to "master" select on of the channel number outs an individual number and voila each track will go to its own in the vst mixer.
Make sense ? hmmm fiddle around a bit youll soon see what i mean itys simpler than it sounds. |
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le barde
Electrypnose
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 12:57
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(I`m not tested FL 6 may be they made upgrade I hope)
About special programs: Wavelab, Sound Forge, Adobe Audition - any program with good dithering algorithm
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what ? .. do you mean that the rendered file won't be as good with FL than with SX ?
with earlier versions of FL (maybe the 4th), i saw in a serious forum people who made this test, and there where absolutly no difference.
they analyzed the files with a kind of soundforge as well.
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EYB
Noized
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 14:25
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Today it is even vice versa.
I saw a threat on kvr that cubase sx3 does something like smoothing/coloring to the sound when it gets rendered. So it sounds different when it is rendered then while listening to the unrendered stuff.
I don't know if it is true or not, or if it is bad or not. Signature |
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lalala
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 15:22
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I really dont think theres much difference to be honest. But actually if anything id say fruity loops had a "warmer" sound than cubase.
If what you said about cubase is true then yes it is bad, very bad because you want your sound to be exactly what you created, if any "colouring" is done then it should be your choice not the machines ! However I can say Ive noticed it and dont believe that such a pro tool as cubase would do something so wrong. |
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diskOtek
Entek
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 16:36
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what i understand is that cubase exports clearer sound from fl but i dont have the experience to talk general about it..
i also heard that sx lacks in bpm...som1 told me that post-rendering it lacks one or two bpm!!
didnt believe it but...anyone knows?
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 16:43
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On 2006-01-18 16:36, diskOtek wrote:
what i understand is that cubase exports clearer sound from fl but i dont have the experience to talk general about it..
i also heard that sx lacks in bpm...som1 told me that post-rendering it lacks one or two bpm!!
didnt believe it but...anyone knows?
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i dont think thats true!
orange
http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic |
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diskOtek
Entek
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 16:50
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me neither just asked..
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le barde
Electrypnose
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Posted : Jan 20, 2006 01:50
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no no ...
if you don't have bug with your system, something like that don't happen.
personaly, i never noticed this, using both softwares since 5 years thru lot of versions.
I also noticed that it's more the listener who is warmer or colder than the rendered file.
but of course sometimes strange things happen, machines have their own life...
.. just one thing in noticed in the past, if you record with an external recorder the project you play, it has some speed slow down.
but it's about 144,98 bmp rather than 145.
it was with FL3.5
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tHuJoN
Freakulizer / Khainz
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Posted : Jan 20, 2006 21:54
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IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jan 20, 2006 21:55
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About the Bpms i think its a combination of the elements used and the program.
I have noticed the same in logic 5,in some of my heavy tracks,some times became slower.
Its rare but it happens.
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lalala
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Posted : Jan 20, 2006 22:36
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On 2006-01-20 21:54, tHuJoN wrote:
I worked a long time in Fruity ... and realy liked it ...
but it is true if u open a vst or a Sample in Cubase and u open the same in Fruity it Sounds different ...
No doubt ...
That was one reason why i changed to Cubase ...
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Its weird but i started using cubase long before fruity (since 93 on the atari !) and I actually prefer fruity sound to any other programs - easily. however to "SWAP" from fruity to cubase is weird, they serve completely different functions. I still use both today. Fruity for its sound and almost cartoon like flexibility and cubase for its multitrackin and mid capabilities and vst tech.. For example i could use fruity live but not cubase so easily, but i hate rranging stuff in fruity. I often use fruity as a plugin for cubase.
Damn i seem to be talking about music more than making it since i got increased internet access. |
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 00:05
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im shure all programs are capable of producing good sound if the user that use them use them right know they ins and outs and know at least basic production rules !
its always the user that make the tool not the oposite (this doesnt aply to apps like ejay or playstation music apps or even trackers with poor sound engine quality or maybe not...?)
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tHuJoN
Freakulizer / Khainz
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 02:46
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diskOtek
Entek
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Posted : Jan 21, 2006 04:46
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thou it makes more sense to start from fruity than from cubase lalala!ur the exception! 
is it true that its difficult to change from fruity to cubase??
experiences?
for me it kind was and many people tell me so!things like piano roll alot different!
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