Fri, Jul 9th - PULSAR (1st Ed.) @ Stubby's Bar - North OC,Cali - (St.Black,Aveon,Kahn,Infiniterror)
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Posted : Jul 1, 2010 19:11
Well the reason i started all this hoopla was cus I looked at this post and thought "hmm, I love trance but I'm not going all the way to the OC for a bunch of music I'm not familiar with"... looked up some of the artists links, and didn't find the music to be in-line with current psychedelic trends of the so-cal scene. If you put just one person on there that every one knows and loves though, you draw a lot more people out, and get to expose them to three DJ's they've perhaps never heard of and would normally never think they'd want to see.
"Free suggestion" as Ian Mackaye once said...
And yes I would love to play some time. Sent u e-mail now that you bumped other thread to top.
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Posted : Jul 1, 2010 19:54
Very good point. And agreed. A mix of dj's is a good idea as well.
For the Next Pulsar would be good.
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 02:08
Well luckily this bar is on the North end of OC, only about 20-30min from downtown LA, Pasadena, etc.. It's about 10 minutes from Lakewood, 15-20mins from Long Beach. I'd say that's pretty central. I mean the other regulars have all been in Woodland Hills/Encino/The Valley, which is about just as far from downtown LA. But I do understand that many of the trancers live up in the Valley, so that is in fact even more local for them. I know that OC sounds far, but in truth, I live in South OC and this is about 30minutes north from me... closer to LA than my place.
Yeah I know you're looking for more of that pure, "darker", "psy" sound that so many of the old heads are all about. I will admit, it's not necessarily my favorite stuff personally. (However I am open minded and do dance to it at psy gatherings.) So that may be one reason you don't really like what you are hearing. As for lovers of progressive, techno, and Full-On, well I think they will be more than happy this time.
But as I said, I want to mix it up and keep it interesting from month to month. So if you or any of the DJ's/artists who play the styles that you are looking for would like to play at the bar, the diversity would be MORE THAN appreciated.
You may be overlooking though that the DJ's playing on this one's lineup are well known in other branches of the scene, and in different scenes entirely. Believe it or not, we've been working very hard trying to bring the Psytrance music out to people in other crowds, and that has been taking off a lot recently. I think we are going to have a significant draw from those crowds, especially since we will be mixing genres and scenes.
Sure, these DJ's haven't played at many "core psy scene" gatherings around here, but that doesn't have to remain the case. If the psy scene parties start embracing more of the DJ's who have been bringing this music out to newer crowds, and booking them at their parties too, we can have a much broader larger psy scene here in Southern California that works symbiotically instead of against itself. Case to point, if one of the mainstay psy organizers were to have me play on their lineup, I wouldn't be seen as an "outsider" by people like you, would I? I know that I (and others) are at least just as passionate about this music (even if it's a different sub style than what you play/make/listen to), perhaps even to a more enthusiastic degree.
Anyway, I see the gatherings that I am working on as "non-scene" or "post-scene" where it shouldn't matter what label you put on yourself ("trancer" "clubber" "raver" "burner" "hippie" whatever). In order to do that, it has to be mixed up between DJ's that play at many types of parties. And as I said, I definitely plan to make psy scene DJ's some of the more played DJ's at these gatherings. You will definitely be hearing at least half psytrance music from month to month, regardless of who is playing.
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 05:23
honestly kahn,
if you were playing at a "core psy scene" gathering, i'd be listening intently to every note, giving you a mean-ish look from time to time, and basically critiquing every beat, because you'd be the NEW GUY on the dex, and that's what ANY trancer (but especially a promoter or artist/dj) does when they see the "new guy" on the dex. hopefully you throw down the fist of god when you play and we have nothing to worry about. but honestly i would consider infringement by some of yr above booked artists on a "core psy scene" party to be a not-so-good thing, because their sound is not underground enough, it is far to... umm... i dont wanna say cheesy, so lets just go w/ "poppy" sounding.
when i first started playing in this scene man i thought people were gonna kill me. there were 1+ year spans when promoters REFUSED to book me. even now i struggle with local gigs because people want to believe in some reputation that was never even merited in the first place. and i've been involved for about 7 years now. granted you don't make experimental-noise-trance, but for every experimental-noise-trance hater there seems to be at least 1 full-on hater. so just keep that in mind.
as far as OC goes, you have to X the 10 and go thru south side, which equals ultimate suck-age to any Los Angelian. so i think it's always been a difficult place to promote trance. not to mention that the authorities in that area are well known to be amongst the all-time meanest (especially Anaheim dear-God!!!!)... us trancers need to feel comfortable enough in a space that we can go outside and perhaps medicate ourselves and each other, is there a chill spot for that at Pulsar?
sorry i'm BSing a lot but hey it's bumping yr party to the top
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 06:06
As I said, not every person who is playing this event is even a psytrance DJ. There will be psytrance DJ's playing, but there will be people who play in entirely different scenes as well. Some of these people wouldn't ever go on a truly "psy" lineup. In a setting like this though, (or imo almost any setting), I see no problem with breaking the "formula" and doing something new.
And naturally you can't please everybody with every type of music. But it's nice to remain open minded, and take in each experience as something entirely new, instead of basing things on past preconceptions. One can always be surprised.
This event is being held in a 100% legal, fully staffed, and operational BAR. Therefore, there should be absolutely no issues with authorities whatsoever. The event will run until 2AM, which is when the bar closes on normal nights. You should have no problem simply walking outside (it's in an asian marketplace)... none of that "no ins and outs" stuff. Plus I think they may have an area out back. After the first event I'll have all that info straightened out.
There is a small budding scene in OC. You're not going to get away with underground parties in most parts of OC. However, for small scale bar events, and even some small startup clubs, it is a promising area to build.
Well I hope to see you there. Psytrance is an underground genre here in the US, and when we are given this opportunity to get the music out to more new people, it's something that I think every psytrancer should be behind.
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 09:47
If youre willing to book some djs that play more underground styles of psy, I would def be down to check it out. LA is such a large bloody area , I live in Chino Hills so the other Psy weekly is like 60 miles away, this one is in my backyard only 10 miles away. Would love to see some real proper psychedelic psytrance happening. if youre ready to let the heavy stuff drop there will be a decent amount of us local psyheads ready to party, guaranteed. Anywayz best of luck with this hope it all works out!
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 19:17
oh and btw, Rowland Heights is actually in LA County, not OC, u might want to make that clear and stop promoting it as an Orange County event so people wont be worried about those dick OC cops we're all so familiar with.
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 20:22
If I was throwing a multiple-genre/psytrance crossover weekly, it would be darkpsy, breakcore, and thrash wobble. And I wouldn't book full-on, not because I don't like it (although true), but rather because it would be out of place with the rest of the music and would be unappealing to the people the event was aimed at. Good luck to everybody here with their endeavors. http://soundcloud.com/herbert-quain
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Posted : Jul 2, 2010 20:42
Pete
I suggest you throw that kind of weekly. That would only help the scene grow.
Not mocking you at all. I really think that you should go with it...
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 00:13
Thanks for the support.
Is the whole city of Rowland Hts located in LA? According to the bar's owner, it's in OC (it's right on the border of Diamond Bar and Rowland Hts.). But I'm not really great with the geography up there.
I'm glad to hear some support from the local psytrancers. With that you can expect to hear at least some of the music you're looking for coming up. Like I said, I want to keep each one mixed genre. So I'm not going to do a whole night of "twisted psytrance," "full-On" or anything, but instead I'll have 1 DJ playing each style. So you may not be 100% on everything you hear, but you should get what you're looking for at some point in the night. By keeping it mixed like this, we can have a mixed group of people who frequent different sorts of parties, and at least at some point throughout the night everybody gets to hear their "favorite" style.
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 00:43
yah the whole city falls in LA county, this whole area is kinda close to where LA, Orange and San Bernardino counties meet.
Im down with different types of music too, and lets face it there is just some psy that wont work indoors period lol. but yah no problem with diff styles as long as it isnt commercial and (hate to use this word again) cheesy. glad to hear your open to everything in terms of music, will be nice to be able to party a little locally
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 00:55
Yeah there is a division line where it starts sounding really commercial (tons of vocals, remixes/covers of pop songs, etc.).
However, even in the club scenes there are many brands of progressive trance, techno, and tech trance that are actually quite deep, non cheesy (non vocal), and often psychedelic at times. My buddy St. Black plays music that I think despite it's more typically club scene origins, will actually go over quite well with fans of prog psy. These days, especially in progressive, it seems like a lot of the sounds from different corners of the scene are starting to collide again. It all started with acid house and techno, which then evolved into the different branches (the psy branch and the more mainstream branches). Funnily enough, it seems like it's this style of music where the genres are starting to fuse back together. I think it's pretty exciting, and it presents a lot opportunity to turn new people onto psy music. The Psy music (at least certain types) is a lot more like other branches of EDM these days, taking a lot of sounds from modern club trance, progressive, techno, electro, breaks, etc., and this stuff has a lot of potential to bridge the gap so that eventually the entire spectrum of psy music can reach new ears. First we have to bring people in with a nice "happy medium." Once we have them, then we can give them more of that "core psy party" experience that we all know and love.
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Posted : Jul 3, 2010 01:54
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On 2010-07-02 20:42, psyman wrote:
Pete
I suggest you throw that kind of weekly. That would only help the scene grow.
Not mocking you at all. I really think that you should go with it...
