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frequencys in psytrance
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 17:30
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frequencys in a track is realy important, and especially important when it comes to the more psychedelic sounds and vibes of a track.
Why is it that I hear less and less Low frequencys in releases such as "Bubble - Airless"? (and many other "full-on related" releases ..
How can you create a mind bobbling (or claim to) without thinking of the multible frequencys that should be in place to create it? .. frequencys are so important, and most (all) "real" psy-releases has producers that are "smart" enough to think about the low- , and midtones instead of ONLY the high- and midtones.
We need more "cleaver" frequencys in the music, we need more psytones 
... Or maybe producers such as "new" infected Mushroom avoid "low" frequencys to make it more "plastic" and clear for the major dancefloor? ..
np. Fluke - Risotto (lots of low frequencys.. mmmmm playfull baselines with intelligence)
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 17:37
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to be honest, with no offense what so ever bro - i dont think you know what ure talking about  i dont wanna sound like a fat headed expert, but i think youre confusing a bunch of things together...
just to use one of your own examples - Infected's bass department is one of the heaviest, fullest, clearest in the biz.
 "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 17:40
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On 2005-12-07 17:37, Surrender wrote:
to be honest, with no offense what so ever bro - i dont think you know what ure talking about
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Me neighter, hehe. But if my words are unclear and/or wrong, you should deffently see my point. Or have I totaly lost it here?
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 17:42
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 17:46
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if u want i can move this to the equip section, there are a vast number of experts that could either explain what im hinting at, or prove me wrong and explain your thesis.
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 17:56
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On 2005-12-07 17:37, Surrender wrote:
i dont wanna sound like a fat headed expert, but i think youre confusing a bunch of things together...
just to use one of your own examples - Infected's bass department is one of the heaviest, fullest, clearest in the biz.
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Yes, but how many low The freq do you notice from IM The Supervisor compared to The Gathering? .. Oh my, I think you got a point, and I'm no expert at all (one of my reason for this thread is to "learn" ect)
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On 2005-12-07 17:46, Surrender wrote:
if u want i can move this to the equip section, there are a vast number of experts that could either explain what im hinting at, or prove me wrong and explain your thesis.
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Send it to the Equipment section mister Lets see what the "experts" has to say. I cant be that wrong, can I?
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Surrender
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 18:26
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john_c
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 18:55
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it depends what kind of music you are writing. IM's new stuff is more minimal and made to rock a dancefloor rather than take you on a psychadelic journey. But trust me, listen to their last album in a club and you will be shocked by the power of their basslines. They have the clearest, hardest hitting bass I have ever heard EVER. |
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sy000321
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 20:20
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and it's all sh101, isnt it? 
fuck, there goes the bargain price of another old roland machine
roll a joint or STFU :) |
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kirna
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 21:43
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haha... isnt psytrance nowdays all about low ferquencies??
or did you mean that all low freqs sound same and ppl should do something about them instead high and mid? |
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NikC
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 22:53
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On 2005-12-07 17:30, Kire-naj wrote:
frequencys in a track is realy important, and especially important when it comes to the more psychedelic sounds and vibes of a track. |
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Yes, frequencies are important.
If there were no frequencies there would be no track.
It would just be silent... Like: "shh"
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Why is it that I hear less and less Low frequencys in releases such as "Bubble - Airless"? (and many other "full-on related" releases ..
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Because some artists (no names mentioned.. but S***i is a clue) choose to highpass their basslines and kicks at a far to high frequency.
Why? Well, because it stops you having to worry about getting the subs to sound right if you're churning out tracks like a factory.
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How can you create a mind bobbling (or claim to) without thinking of the multible frequencys that should be in place to create it?
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umm?
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.. frequencys are so important, and most (all) "real" psy-releases has producers that are "smart" enough to think about the low- , and midtones instead of ONLY the high- and midtones.
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As said before, frequencies are important, because they are the music. I don't think you really understand what a frequency is.
A good producer (of any form of music) should think about all of the frequency bands (which i think is what you're referring to when you say frequencies).
So that: Subs sound good, low-mids sound good, high-mids sound good, and highs sound good.
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We need more "cleaver" frequencys in the music, we need more psytones
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I don't know what a 'cleaver frequency' is. It makes me think of someone chopping a waveform in half and lots of blood.
Psytones? All music can be made up of the same tones... there are no particular psychedelic 'tones'.
I think you mean psy 'sounds'.
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... Or maybe producers such as "new" infected Mushroom avoid "low" frequencys to make it more "plastic" and clear for the major dancefloor? ..
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Whatever people may say about Infected Mushroom's new music, they are none-the-less tremendously good producers.
They may not have the most powerful subs in psytrance, but their bass sounds are tight, clear and powerful.
Plus, people want big basses at big venues with good soundsystems. I don't know what you mean by 'plastic' though.
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np. Fluke - Risotto (lots of low frequencys.. mmmmm playfull baselines with intelligence)
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Please define what you mean by 'intelligence'.
Hope this clears up a few issues.
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e-motion
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 23:10
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Blame the Full On Topic #67139
oh you forgot to add that full on basslines are all equal... dark has really distinct bbb same note basslines ! |
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NikC
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 23:27
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Sure full-on basslines follow the 16th rhythm...
But that surely doesn't have anything to do with whether they have a powerful sub?
16th basses can, although similar, definitely vary in timbre and power.
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Barius
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 23:36
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haha I love it when darkpsy listeners criticize the basslines in full on for being too similar. This is not what Kire-naj was talking about though 
I think he probably is talking about certain modern full on trance tunes where the basslines sounds too centered and thin. The bass maybe clear, but not always full. I have heard a lot of tunes that has this kinda sound. VERY clear basslines, almost too clear, but not pumping and deep. It often takes away the attention from the rest of the song. Sometimes I think it is way too dominant. Almost like a lead |
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Posted : Dec 7, 2005 23:45
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On 2005-12-07 22:53, NikC wrote:
Because some artists (no names mentioned.. but S***i is a clue) choose to highpass their basslines and kicks at a far to high frequency.
Why? Well, because it stops you having to worry about getting the subs to sound right if you're churning out tracks like a factory.
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Now that one got me laughing.. Thanks NikC! 
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