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Posted : Jun 10, 2004 23:04
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how do i tell accuartelly if any of my frequencies overlap in cubase sx2?
  "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Dreamthief
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Posted : Jun 11, 2004 10:11
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Hiya. You can get a spectrum analyser plugin. I use one called inspector.
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Posted : Jun 11, 2004 16:02
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Mike A
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Posted : Jun 11, 2004 16:35
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Use your ears. If one part sounds not clear when there is another part playing - it is usually a frequency problem.
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Posted : Jun 11, 2004 17:56
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Mike the ears can only go so far, even the most trained ones.... why use my ears when i can be far more accurate with an aid?
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Posted : Jun 12, 2004 08:42
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Yeah, best is you comine listening and seeing.
It helps each other, but yes it counts how it sounds not how it looks like. 
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br0d
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Posted : Jun 12, 2004 09:08
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The craft of songwriting is more than just listening. It is also strategy and technique. Would we advise a weightlifter looking for new routines to just "use his muscles?" He knows that part. He knows that his muscles can only progress at a certain rate which correlates to experience and commitment. But he is constantly looking for ways to tweak that rate. Because he wants to optimize his growth. His knowledge feeds back into his strength which feeds back into his his routinization, and together these elements help him to progress as efficiently as possible. All are essential.
Total respect Mike, and I'm sure you didn't imply that as a total solution, but I see that that "use your ears" catch-all popping up in discussions a lot, and I really don't think it tells the whole story. Ears are critically important, but the ears will also continue to hear the same things over and over for a lifetime, never changing their perspective much, if we do not urge them forward by adding new stimulus and perspective to what we are hearing, through the study of technique. Sometimes technique is visual and mechanical. This does not ruin art. As long as it is tempered with commitment and abstraction, it enhances it quite a bit. My 02c |
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Mike A
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Posted : Jun 12, 2004 18:45
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Surrender & br0d - I didn't mean listen and do nothing.
Take sound A and sound B.
Take an equalizer and make "sweeps" with it on sound A. find the spot where sound B sounds most clear - that's where the freqs overlap usually.
I'm not that of an expert is sound engineering - but one thing that I've learned - frequency analyzers are completely useless.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 12, 2004 19:21
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saxopholus
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Posted : Jun 12, 2004 19:59
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the Izotope plug-ins have some very good realtime frequency analysers, much better than Inspector, although it is free. I use analysers quite a bit as they are a good training aid - easier I find to analyse a sound if u can (a) hear it and (b) see a visual representation of what u are meant to hear. Not sure if the average frequency analyser from Sound Forge say, is more accurate though. |
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Amygdala
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Posted : Jun 16, 2004 00:21
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Analyzing for frequency overlaps tends to ruin your mix. When you see that some sounds overlap, don't get caught up, trying to distangle them... Part of the charm is phase-cancelation, energy dispersion and stuff like that, that happens when frequencies overlap...
Apart from that, you will never be able to fit any sounds into a mix, that doesn't at some point overlap another one. Frequency analysis can be a great tool - just don't overdo it to much. Regardless of your beliefs, your ears must like the result - it matters squad what you do, if only your eyes like looking at spectrum analyzers
The more I learn about electronic music theory, the more I praise the words: "F... art, let's dance!"
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 16, 2004 00:31
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