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Freezing up Vst's or should I sample them?
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Freeflow
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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 17:33
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D-Alien - Thanks man  i think this will be a change in my music creation...
Love goes to D-Alien and sideFXed... Great advice..
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Djones
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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 18:22
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I don't understand what makes Tapeit better than exporting tracks to wave!
I have once tried it, and it was quite a struggle to get the parts recorded properly.
After that, I had to dig the files out of a directory, instead of just dragging 'm out of the pool in Cubase.
Did I do something wrong maybe with Tapeit?
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D-Alien
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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 20:17
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On 2006-08-16 18:22, Djones wrote:
I don't understand what makes Tapeit better than exporting tracks to wave!
I have once tried it, and it was quite a struggle to get the parts recorded properly.
After that, I had to dig the files out of a directory, instead of just dragging 'm out of the pool in Cubase.
Did I do something wrong maybe with Tapeit?
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wow man, obviously u didnt red very well the manual. and its just feeeew phrases. 
u can triger tapeit by midi events, by beat count, by bar count (x4beats), and cant remember the last option. What u have to do is, choose, mark or select how much beat or bars u want to record (but stop your sequencer first  ) than press the record button and u'll see a menu where u can choose the exact directory u want your wavs (in 8bit, 16bit, 24bit even in 32bit floating point, depending the sound card also ejejeje)
once u've choosen that tapeit will automize evrything else. when the 32bars are finished even if your sequencer still runs tapeit stops recording. If u can manage to triger tapeit by midi events its much more powerfull as u can put start-stop triggers wherever u want (not depending on beats or bars)..BUT THE COOOOOLEST thing about tapeit is that even if its is recording and u've automated all necessary parameters of your synth, u can still continue to TWEAK by hand more and more parameters (some that dont permit to be automated, like diferent gate patterns i.e. in some synths) and tape it will recordit.
just get used to it and u'll see what an enorm help can it be, especilly when i have over 25channels full of heavy synths, effects etc... other thig is that, when u've recorded the traks needed they apear in tape it and u have just to drag them back in your sequencer. gosh.. simplest thing than that I've never encountered
i cannot remember who post first the about tapeit but it was here in this section. search it and u can read more valuable info
hope it helps
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sideFXed
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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 21:38
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ecsmix, if you're happy with the mix of your already done stuff you simply create 1 or several groups that make sense. route everything to it and put a recorder plugin on it, as I described in my first post in this topic. The usual bouncing method of your host should suffice too.
Now simply use the midi trigger function in tapeit 2 (if you can obtain it) and voila, your 23 tracks are now in one wave track)
sometimes it makes sense to split into different groups, just as I described in that post.
for your sampler vs audio track question. I'm using almost everything in a sampler. I only use audio tracks for bounced stuff.
So when you use kicks and snares, there's an obvious problem with audio tracks. If you want to change the sample, you have to reedit most of it again, in a sampler it's a simple change of the sample. cpu wise the sampler sure will take up more cpu. when you run out of "juice", rinse and repeat the recording/bouncing of the track.
I usually end up with 5-7 wavefiles with a finished track. (I almost never finish a track btw)
I know I know, this post doesn't make much sense... I'm drunk hehe... but when you actually experience the possibilities with tapeit, you get your own working routine.
It's really easy.
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sideFXed
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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 21:43
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djones, advantages of tapeit2
-multitrack bounce
-realtime bounce (tweak cutoffs and every other imaginable parameter while bouncing)
-midi triggered bounce (mark a region, start/stop of recording is automated)
-never lose that special moment of jamming
-record a singer without his knowledge (jam)
-record things you can't recreate with automation
-misusing tapeit for recording short rips and fragments of a sequence
-etc etc
enough reasons?
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D-Alien
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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 22:55
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ou yeah. thanks sidefx.
tapeit changed my life, so man YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!
big hugs bro! really this small thingy is already an OBLIGATORY part of any project I make. Also it helps me a lot in moments of "Inspirational LAck" ejejejeje, i mean, i just put some synths, strat tweaking tweaking tweaking and in this moment when u hear something good I start recording. this way I c an acomulate a lot sequences that later I use in traks. And its a so helpful when I want to use some sophisticated Reaktor Ensambles, and you know what a cpu hunger this monster has ejejejeje.
I think that everybody that manege to familiarize with Tapeit will LOVE IT!!!!!
simple and genious!
one more time: SIDEFX, thanks bro for this extraordinary contribution
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sideFXed
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Posted : Aug 17, 2006 00:18
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my part was small, we gotta thank the guy from silverspike in buying the plug.
and companies like steinberg should imo look close at such things to improve their solutions of bouncing and freezing.
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bukboy
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Posted : Aug 17, 2006 10:34
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I just thought of an easy way to Bounce in cubase and it works.
Just freeze a section (it creates a 32bit wav in the freeze folder) and then drag it (the wav from the freeze folder) 2 the position u need it at(in an audio track).
If u freeze only a 1 bar or 2 bar section then u can repeat it like a midi section as well.
Or u can edit it how u like.
And just turn off the vst which u froze.
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sideFXed
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Posted : Aug 17, 2006 19:01
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didn't think of that bukboy thx for the advice.
Most of the time I like to create a bounce folder inside the track directory, where I also state the bpm of the track. If I ever feel like changing the speed I'm not completely lost that way.
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Dagas
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Posted : Aug 18, 2006 22:53
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anyone knows if there's a mac vst equivalent of tapeit?
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D-Alien
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Posted : Aug 18, 2006 23:06
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the daleks
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