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Posted : Jan 9, 2015 01:47
Was thinking in terms of how did you find plugin fitting you personally, how do you like it, what do you think about it and so on, as I said, user interface put's me off big time, so I kinda ditched it, played little with BIGROOMKIX too, what do you think about that one?
On 2015-01-09 00:16, wirakocha wrote:
also you can try the BigKick by audioboutique ,you can make killah goa kicks.
Gave it a go, couldn't justify it over Sonic Academy Kick at all, which IMHO is the best bang for the buck for the kicks
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Posted : Jan 10, 2015 00:51
Hi,yes in the begining was frustrating spending months tweking to find a desire kick , but you must be back to the 90ts and listen that goa tracks ,take special atention to the kick they sound short,clicky and punchy a trick to have this modern is found a goa kick sample and put in them the most modern plugins like,saturator,compresor.
to get that goa kicks with BigKick you can read the manual,desactivate attack, in the body tweek the hold and decay they don't go more than 1/16th ,in the pitch section deactivate orig and activate tough twek a lite bit curve knob,the start knob bettween 6000 to 8000 hz,time knob no more than 100ms,the note match with the bass note...
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Posted : Jan 10, 2015 01:29
Thanks for the tips, really appreciate it, there is always place for some new info about old matter, kinda waiting for Oni Katsu for his phaser thing, which is golden I can bet on it
Started digging this "new" modern plastic progy like kicks lately, dunno they kinda really cut trough the mix nicely and click give them more than enough impact/punch, I didn't like that kicks at all, maybe because many used same SHM "Leave the world behind" one or few Vengeance ones that have that clicks from Electroshock 2 (88 one and few more), same kinda thing is here, few artist's use same clicks all the time for sure, but grow to like them, saw potential, can't say I'm too crazy about 909's, but they are still great too.
Here's example of really nice one @1:25
Started getting more into layering too, Reaper kinda have strong audio editing side, so it invites more for it, fun stuff
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Posted : Jan 10, 2015 22:55
Yes, you can make that kind of kick with bazzim ,make a short kick no more than 200 ms put all the fades in the middle and start to the taste to the sides, add saturator cut the frequencies ,look some chart kick bass frequencies apply in the eq ,compresor fast attack,release auto,30db,treshlord around to -6-11db a bit of gain...
some times you can hear a lot of tracks that are weak in the low end because to many of them cut above to 50hz-48db,you wanna have a heavy kick put in it saturator, by the same way your kick no must be have to much low frecuencies they eat a lot of your space in the track , is not easy explain but is different that many people think how to make a kick...try the another way ...
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Posted : Jan 10, 2015 23:07
Thanks again, the reason why there is not much low end in that kicks is because they are actually above 55hz, A-C#, which than corresponds to something higher than root note, 3-4th, which play very well with bass and since there isn't anything happening below fundamental of kick, there is no point of keeping it either, so hence the end result.
I'm happy with my kicks, being around the block for quite some time, but as always there is space for more knowledge, the more you learn, more stuff you realize you didn't know, same happened with that phaser bass trick from Oni Katsu, after that I realized that there are many little things in personal workflows worth hearing about, I know basics and I'm confident in what I know, but there is always tricks and stuff worth trying out and hence my interest in the matter.
Transient tools are worth trying out for both kick and bass
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Posted : Jan 11, 2015 02:03
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Posted : Jan 14, 2015 22:47
i don't agree to put phaser to the kick,the phaser split the mono frequency to stereo it will change constantly to the sides ,i prefer keep the kick in the middle, but for the bass is ok ,put to the sides, with a simple delay,phaser,etc.
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Posted : Jan 15, 2015 05:18
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On 2015-01-14 22:47, wirakocha wrote:
i don't agree to put phaser to the kick,the phaser split the mono frequency to stereo it will change constantly to the sides ,i prefer keep the kick in the middle, but for the bass is ok ,put to the sides, with a simple delay,phaser,etc.
Try free MPhaser from Melda, there is far more things you can tweak than phaser you have your opinion based at, like actual range and other fun stuff, Oni never expanded on his thing, so I can't be sure about it and I like his kicks, so for me it's enough to actually wait until he say something, but phaser's are used on kick's, I did my fair share of analyzing and you can spot easily that results, they aren't that usual, but they are there at least on click's.
