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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 16:52
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On 2011-04-09 16:42, Beat Agency wrote:
So we do agree
If you cared to read my points that's exactly what I have said. So why being a nag when you agree with me?
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I read your points. I just stated them again because we went a little off track, and I think that you can do better in order to prove them and make more people to pay attention. I do not completely agree with you though.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 17:00
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On 2011-04-09 16:52, Bodhisattva wrote:
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On 2011-04-09 16:42, Beat Agency wrote:
So we do agree
If you cared to read my points that's exactly what I have said. So why being a nag when you agree with me?
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I read your points. I just stated them again because we went a little off track, and I think that you can do better in order to prove them and make more people to pay attention. I do not completely agree with you though.
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But that's exactly what I did with this debate. I opened up a debate and raised a few questions. If that is not to make people aware of free releases contra CD releases then i don't know what is
It is 100 times more constructive than posting yet another "look at my favorite top 10's" etc. topic that would get 2 comments
Point is you nagged because you are annoyed with my direct way of saying things in a 100% honest way. You seem to have a very hard time with my way of debating and even when told that I am in good faith and that I debate because it's a topic that I really is interested in all you do is try to put me down and make my debate and opinion look as if it's "fighting and bitching".
To me that is not OK and is indeed trolling in my book.
So next time you are trigger happy and just can't wait to hit me in the head with your views on what my purpose is with debating then ask yourself if you at all know me and what my purpose with my honest opinion is
This is the last word from me to you unless you care to contribute to the debate instead of telling me what you think I should do instead of debating.
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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 17:26
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My opinion is a part of the debate man.
If a release is good, in most cases it will get attention one way or the other.
I don't see why me suggesting that you will do something that in my opinion can make your point stronger is off topic.
I have no probelm with your honesty, on the contrary. I just think that you can be a bit rude while being honest sometimes and it's not always necessary to be rude while your are being honset. I don't think that you actually noticed it, but you have a problem respecting other people's opinions.
And a lot of the things you claim other people are doing are things you do yourself.
I respect your opinions even if I don't agree with them.
You have to undestand that what led me to argue with you this way is always seeing negative posts by you. I always see you post about things that bugs you and that's cool, but it would be great to see a post about something you like every once in a while.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 17:33
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No you are trolling. It's got nothing to do with participating at all!
Funny did you read Gunter's opinion? He does not see me as rude. So obviously not everyone share your biased opinion about my person and the way i debate. Maybe stop being so sensitive as I have at no point been rude to anyone here.
On the contrary I find you very rude in the way you judge me (you just had to jump in and support dear damon and his little hick-up) and your "opinion" regarding me is absolutely non constructive to this debate and I haven't seen anything you write even come close to what this debate is about. On the contrary all you do is pointing finger at me and keep going on and on (like a broken record) on what you feel I should do and what I do wrong.
Get down from your high horse and start to contribute in this debate constructive or just leave the debate alone.
Or spell it out 100% honest. Is your nagging because of the topic or because you dislike me in general? Be 100% honest now so we can move on
To me it seem as if it's you who have a very hard time accepting my way of debating and my opinion.
So I suggest you leave this debate alone, as we have used way too much space on your rants toward me, and get back to the topic.  www.beatagency.dk |
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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 18:55
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You edited your last post in page 2 so I just saw it now.
In regard to what you said there, well I think you confused things a bit.
I don't know about other people, but when I post a comment about something that sounds good to me, I post it because it sounds good and not because it's out on CD. So if I like a certain free release I will comment on it. I don't automatically reject a release because it's free. I listen first.
Regarding the lack of comments on some free releases here, well, I don't think it's because they are free, I think it's simply got to do with people's taste.
Maybe, like you said, some people don't pay attention to free releases just because they think that the their quality level is lower or something, but in my opinion in most cases it's just a matter of taste. A lot of CD releases here don't get much attention either.
+ I do agree that there are bad CD releases just as there are bad free releases, but I think that in most cases free releases are not that good ( based on what I came across ). I did came across some good free releases though ( most of them, not all, are from well established labels ).
I also don't think that it's got to do with CD VS free releases, I think maybe it's more got to do with music that people can buy ( digitally or on CD ) VS free music.
Hope that's a dissent comment for you, because I don't want to argue with you no more. It's tiring
Cheers !
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damon
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 19:06
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Sooo ... according to Almighty Beat Agency only he knows there are a lot of GOOD FREE DIGITAL releases out there on teh tubes.
The majority of us here in chill section of Isra don't and are aware only about CDs.
We don't know about Ektoplazm, Zealotry, Kahvi Collective, free Bandcamp releases and dozens of other GOOD FREE DIGITAL label/artists releases and websites with freebies.
Instead of discovering and praising those we just troll here.
LOL
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 19:41
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On 2011-04-09 19:06, damon wrote:
Sooo ... according to Almighty Beat Agency only he knows there are a lot of GOOD FREE DIGITAL releases out there on teh tubes.
The majority of us here in chill section of Isra don't and are aware only about CDs.
We don't know about Ektoplazm, Zealotry, Kahvi Collective, free Bandcamp releases and dozens of other GOOD FREE DIGITAL label/artists releases and websites with freebies.
Instead of discovering and praising those we just troll here.
LOL
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It's amazing how you fail to understand the point of this debate in your little rant about me. I guess your trolling prevent you from even bother to try to understand and I guess you should just be ignored
And thank you for totally ruining this debate. Both of you. I guess I'll ask the mods to close it as this has become absolutely nonsense in your little annoyed attack on my way of debating.
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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 19:53
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On 2011-04-09 19:41, Beat Agency wrote:
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On 2011-04-09 19:06, damon wrote:
Sooo ... according to Almighty Beat Agency only he knows there are a lot of GOOD FREE DIGITAL releases out there on teh tubes.
The majority of us here in chill section of Isra don't and are aware only about CDs.
We don't know about Ektoplazm, Zealotry, Kahvi Collective, free Bandcamp releases and dozens of other GOOD FREE DIGITAL label/artists releases and websites with freebies.
Instead of discovering and praising those we just troll here.
LOL
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It's amazing how you fail to understand the point of this debate in your little rant about me. I guess your trolling prevent you from even bother to try to understand and I guess you should just be ignored
And thank you for totally ruining this debate. Both of you. I guess I'll ask the mods to close it as this has become absolutely nonsense in your little annoyed attack on my way of debating.
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Did you actually read my last post ?
It's got everything to do with this thread and especially to your last comment on page 2. I didn't say anything bad about you there.
It's all about the topic!
Read it man.
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liquidchill
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 20:03
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charlie sheen take a break |
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 20:03
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Yes I read it and it's the first time you actually stick to the topic. But I've seriously had it and don't feel like debating with you.
This debate has been ruined in the sense that the two last pages has been about me and your issues with my way of saying things instead of focusing on the topic. And now dear damon had his 2nd stupid rant at me. Why should the debate go on when it's obvious that you two have another agenda? The last two pages does not indicate you want to debate without going personal and express your opinion about me. Just because you have one post sticking to the topic does not make it better or make me believe you are interested in debating polite and on topic.
I feel this debate has reached it's end and i have asked for it to be closed.
It's really sad that some of you have such a hard time debating (when you disagree with an opinion) instead of pointing fingers and looking for fights.
End of story please rant away until it's closed.
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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 21:10
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 21:14
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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 21:15
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Yes, I do. |
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Bodhisattva
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Posted : Apr 9, 2011 22:05
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You start debates, you raise questions and issues, always without providing solutions or anything that is actually helpful.
It's not that nice when it's not done through poetry you know
You say it's cconstructive criticism or that you have a reason behind it, but the truth is that you just shoot stuff into the air in order to make people argue and fight.
You like to talk and talk, but you don't actually do something about the things you claim to be bothered by.
You try to annoy and stir things up.
You always have something bad to say about somebody else. It's ok to be negative at times, but when everything you say is negative or aimed to stir things up it's obviously trolling.
I almost never see you starting threads about someone else's free music ( or any kind of music for that matter ) besides your own.
Example for your "debates" and so called cconstructive criticism:
Pages 5 and 6 here:
it starts in post number 12 ( page 5 ) and look what is going on in page 6
http://forum.isratrance.com/chillbase-org-global-chillout-community/page5/
http://forum.isratrance.com/chillbase-org-global-chillout-community/page6/
And that is just one. Also another recent one is on the link I posted before.
I won't feed you anymore.
Good day.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Apr 10, 2011 00:25
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So instead of settling this in private you just go on and on. Where does one find the "stop" button with you?
You seem to have taken a personal grudge against me. Seem a bit sad to me that you have nothing better to do. But peace with it
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