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L66
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Posted : Jul 6, 2016 18:08:07
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basefree
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Posted : Jul 11, 2016 17:45
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Haha! Ye dude this track is dope. Super fun. I wasn't expecting all the fun and funk when I started playing it lol. Here are some thoughts...
-The distorted sound in the beginning (the kind of off beat but not really with three notes around 1:06) could be distorted more with some wider stereo sep.
-I think you should really break down the beat more around 1:47. You kind of do it with the volume stops on the leads but you could make it slightly more break-beat and it might lead into the next phrase a bit better.
-As for the next phrase...the main distorted lead begs for some whack filter automation imo. It sounds kind of strange as more or less a static sound.
-The kick is not strong enough to carry this break-beat starting at 3:12. I don't think it's composition necessarily (you could get away with that rhythm) but rather the presence and the overall mixing.
-The main composition in the area around 5:12 could be more soulful I think--could be as easy as a bend or two to be honest.
-The composition again at 6:04ish needs to be better. You got the main vibe down with the 4bar lead but if you were to add some bend on some of the notes it would really make that bit shine. As of now it sounds a little wanting.
-For the phrase after that you might want to drop the lead down an octave or otherwise cut the highs out a little bit more to get really down/dirty in conjunction with the rolling bass.
Overall a very fun and refreshing track! Are you going to release it for download at some point cause I kind of want it in my library. Feel free to message me the private stream with download enabled .
Gj. Peace.
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L66
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Posted : Jul 12, 2016 05:16
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Hey basefree,i really appreciate you taking the time to listen and then for the very long and detailed feedback. Thanks a lot!
A few points you made i will definitely try out and see what i can come up with. Some interesting ideas for sure.! I will pm you the link for download.
Thanks again
Peace
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L66
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Posted : Jul 12, 2016 06:39
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Please see my comments to your thoughts.
-The distorted sound in the beginning (the kind of off beat but not really with three notes around 1:06) could be distorted more with some wider stereo sep.
Did you mean the perc type sound?
-I think you should really break down the beat more around 1:47. You kind of do it with the volume stops on the leads but you could make it slightly more break-beat and it might lead into the next phrase a bit better.
It leads into a faster lead right after that section and slowing it down more might make it too choppy? was trying to emphasize more groove than break beat to be honest... Do you think that it doesn't blend in well with the break beat type beat after that section?
-As for the next phrase...the main distorted lead begs for some whack filter automation imo. It sounds kind of strange as more or less a static sound.
I agree here with you, i originally added some lfo pitch modulation to give it sort of a vibrato feel and to brighten it up a bit, but the leads is way too distorted to make any "neat" sounding pitch modulating, it will have to be more standard pitch bending and maybe an additional filter to give it some more "feeling". Will experiment more with this.
-The kick is not strong enough to carry this break-beat starting at 3:12. I don't think it's composition necessarily (you could get away with that rhythm) but rather the presence and the overall mixing.
That part is because of the filter automation on the drums, the high pass is removing the some of the rumble in the low end and it opens up gradually as it come all together building tension, it was a design choice but i can leave it in from the start and see if that fits better...
-The main composition in the area around 5:12 could be more soulful I think--could be as easy as a bend or two to be honest.
Are you talking about the second melody that comes in? Maybe having it pitch bend more frequently on each note towards the end? instead of just a few notes sparingly? ill try it out and see what works best.
-The composition again at 6:04ish needs to be better. You got the main vibe down with the 4bar lead but if you were to add some bend on some of the notes it would really make that bit shine. As of now it sounds a little wanting.
YES, i agree here and i know what you mean, it needs that something special to stand out. I will try some more crazy pitch bends and see how it turns out.
-For the phrase after that you might want to drop the lead down an octave or otherwise cut the highs out a little bit more to get really down/dirty in conjunction with the rolling bass.
I know what your saying here, this will definitely change the feel of the groove, that dirty funky sound! Will try this out too, but may be a bit tricky as all the layers have to move down and might clash in frequencies...need to try and experiment.
Again thanks so much for your time and effort for this!
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basefree
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Posted : Jul 12, 2016 23:16
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On 2016-07-12 06:39, L66 wrote:
Please see my comments to your thoughts.
-The distorted sound in the beginning (the kind of off beat but not really with three notes around 1:06) could be distorted more with some wider stereo sep.
Did you mean the perc type sound?
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I mean the distorted synth sound that could be a lead if you composed it as such. It's not really percussive to me.
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-I think you should really break down the beat more around 1:47. You kind of do it with the volume stops on the leads but you could make it slightly more break-beat and it might lead into the next phrase a bit better.
It leads into a faster lead right after that section and slowing it down more might make it too choppy? was trying to emphasize more groove than break beat to be honest... Do you think that it doesn't blend in well with the break beat type beat after that section?
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Ye I see what you're saying. Making it too break-beat wouldn't really jive with the section that you're talking about. Having said that...I think that making it a touch more break-beat--only a smidge--would make the section after the faster section that follows a bit more suitable in the overall composition and mix. I might try playing with either the kick pattern (and the consequent synth chopping) or maybe do something slightly different with the percussion--especially the snare (if you went that route).
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-As for the next phrase...the main distorted lead begs for some whack filter automation imo. It sounds kind of strange as more or less a static sound.
I agree here with you, i originally added some lfo pitch modulation to give it sort of a vibrato feel and to brighten it up a bit, but the leads is way too distorted to make any "neat" sounding pitch modulating, it will have to be more standard pitch bending and maybe an additional filter to give it some more "feeling". Will experiment more with this.
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Sounds good!
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-The kick is not strong enough to carry this break-beat starting at 3:12. I don't think it's composition necessarily (you could get away with that rhythm) but rather the presence and the overall mixing.
That part is because of the filter automation on the drums, the high pass is removing the some of the rumble in the low end and it opens up gradually as it come all together building tension, it was a design choice but i can leave it in from the start and see if that fits better...
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Ok cool. I see what you're saying. All I would say in response is that for me, upon listening to it, I didn't readily get that impression--what you just outlined above. Perhaps make it slightly more obvious what you're doing?
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-The main composition in the area around 5:12 could be more soulful I think--could be as easy as a bend or two to be honest.
Are you talking about the second melody that comes in? Maybe having it pitch bend more frequently on each note towards the end? instead of just a few notes sparingly? ill try it out and see what works best.
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Ye, I would just play with some pitch-bending on some notes and see what fits well with the groove--what suits your taste to be honest as the core is already there.
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-The composition again at 6:04ish needs to be better. You got the main vibe down with the 4bar lead but if you were to add some bend on some of the notes it would really make that bit shine. As of now it sounds a little wanting.
YES, i agree here and i know what you mean, it needs that something special to stand out. I will try some more crazy pitch bends and see how it turns out.
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Sounds good.
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-For the phrase after that you might want to drop the lead down an octave or otherwise cut the highs out a little bit more to get really down/dirty in conjunction with the rolling bass.
I know what your saying here, this will definitely change the feel of the groove, that dirty funky sound! Will try this out too, but may be a bit tricky as all the layers have to move down and might clash in frequencies...need to try and experiment.
Again thanks so much for your time and effort for this!
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Ye. I understand exactly what you're saying. Even as I was thinking of dropping it down like that I was considering how it would work with the sounds themselves. You might just have to drop down (or pull up) depending on what filters your using to get "that particular part" to really shine with that down and dirty funky sound.
Absolutely man! I really want to see this section of the forum become more supportive and engaging for all people--whether they're just starting out or whether they've been producing for years. I'm glad to offer my opinions and am glad to continue to do so.
I loved listening to this track and I'm excited to hear how it turns out.
Let me know how it goes.
Peace.
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L66
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Posted : Jul 14, 2016 11:44
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Hi mate,
I have tried some of your suggestions here, some worked out ok and some weren't particularly suitable. For instance adding more wild or crazy filter modulations gives the track a different feeling, kind of more wacked out crazier vibe(which is cool too)but less funky and groovy. I didn't dig that as much.
More pitch bending on those parts with the triplets parts sounded ok but like previously it kind of loses its rhythm and funky groove and ventures into weird psychedelia which is cool in itself but no my intended goal. Nonetheless for my next track i will keep these ideas in mind.
I did try and remove the backing vocals on the last break, when the main singing is taking place and that definitely is a big improvement for the last lead that comes in, as it is adds more excitement and intensity.
I did cut the high freqs a little for the last layered leads this actually helped in gluing it together a bit better with the bassline. Trying it at a lower octave is a no go and it smears the bass quite a bit (freq clash).
I am sending the new edited version to mastering, as someone offered me one free master. I will make it downloadable, just pm me and i will send it to whoever wants it (once its done, ill update this thread).
Cheers and thanks again!
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basefree
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Posted : Jul 17, 2016 01:26
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On 2016-07-14 11:44, L66 wrote:
Hi mate,
I have tried some of your suggestions here, some worked out ok and some weren't particularly suitable. For instance adding more wild or crazy filter modulations gives the track a different feeling, kind of more wacked out crazier vibe(which is cool too)but less funky and groovy. I didn't dig that as much.
More pitch bending on those parts with the triplets parts sounded ok but like previously it kind of loses its rhythm and funky groove and ventures into weird psychedelia which is cool in itself but no my intended goal. Nonetheless for my next track i will keep these ideas in mind.
I did try and remove the backing vocals on the last break, when the main singing is taking place and that definitely is a big improvement for the last lead that comes in, as it is adds more excitement and intensity.
I did cut the high freqs a little for the last layered leads this actually helped in gluing it together a bit better with the bassline. Trying it at a lower octave is a no go and it smears the bass quite a bit (freq clash).
I am sending the new edited version to mastering, as someone offered me one free master. I will make it downloadable, just pm me and i will send it to whoever wants it (once its done, ill update this thread).
Cheers and thanks again!
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Cool man. I'm excited to hear the finished thing.
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L66
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Posted : Jul 24, 2016 10:01
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Hey Bro, Just finished tweaking it, adding more bits and bobs from your advice.
Haven't got it mastered as yet, but still have a listen and tell me what you think.
Its the same link.
Peace out
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smoker
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Posted : Jul 24, 2016 13:28
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L66
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Posted : Jul 24, 2016 14:17
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RhinoCeros
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Posted : Jul 24, 2016 17:06
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Boom Boom, i really enjoed the song and composition. Cool remix
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L66
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Posted : Jul 25, 2016 12:38
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