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mikeonacid
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 13:53
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ok griniara... no problem with that.
But belive me i know 5 things more from u and maybe from a lot of users in this section... i make parties for the last 4 years... i know a lot of promoters in greece and i know how things work...
I expressed something that i found it "not so good" as far as the promoters aspect... that is my opinion about, after all E.M asked us to give our opinion...
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mahabarata
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 14:04
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On 2005-03-29 13:53, mikeonacid wrote:
ok griniara... no problem with that.
But belive me i know 5 things more from u and maybe from a lot of users in this section... that is my opinion about, after all E.M asked us to give our opinion...
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So we also we can give our opinion NO?Only promoters have the write to speak because you "know" 5 things more????
And....MR MODERATOR????? We are suppose to have nick names and someone is writing down the name of someone and you are not deleting the post? At least you wrote down the rules of using this site...you wrote them completely.....ts ts ts... |
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CLAW
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 14:18
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On 2005-03-29 13:53, mikeonacid wrote:
ok griniara... no problem with that.
But belive me i know 5 things more from u and maybe from a lot of users in this section... that is my opinion about, after all E.M asked us to give our opinion...
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So we also we can give our opinion NO?Only promoters have the write to speak because you "know" 5 things more????
And....MR MODERATOR????? We are suppose to have nick names and someone is writing down the name of someone and you are not deleting the post? At least you wrote down the rules of using this site...you wrote them completely.....ts ts ts...
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Plz stop being off topic and let me decide about what has to be deleted and not...
I will ask u again. This thread has been made in order for u to find solutions and express opinions...
I will ask u to stop posting off-topics for the last time, and stay focus on the subject...
There are a lot of promoters, some are good some are bad... Its our choice to figure that out, and decide whether we will support them or now...
After all, its all about repsecting ppl...
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Code Red
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 14:36
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On 2005-03-29 11:01, odysseus wrote:
no he is not.just he thinks that he is clever..
koinos tous ksipnisate kala kala ke tora pane na sas fane ti doulia...
don"t let them to do that to you...
finish with him..
i hope you got my point mike!!
you gonna have all our help for that!!
rave 4 ravers,trance for trancers,house to houselovers.
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You want to start a blacklist with promoters from all over Greece?
Good, start with this disgraced guy here.
Just read carefuly his post and you will understand many things about the way he thinks of trance events when he refers to them as 'doulia', the way he thinks about other promoters and about the way he deals with other people with words like 'finish him, we will support you in order to do so'.
Odysseus you are a big disgrace for our country, you and your partners that talk about black lists and about banning other promoters and about ignoring progressive trance events just because there are not enough money in that music.
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odysseus
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 14:37
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On 2005-03-29 14:04, mahabarata wrote:
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So we also we can give our opinion NO?Only promoters have the write to speak because you "know" 5 things more????
And....MR MODERATOR????? We are suppose to have nick names and someone is writing down the name of someone and you are not deleting the post? At least you wrote down the rules of using this site...you wrote them completely.....ts ts ts...
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don"t blame the others mahabarata..
you also use real names instead the nicknames mahabarata...
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/24930/forum/17/start/0
hehe
you got the therapy
iknow.. 
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mahabarata
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 14:54
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Since all the dear friends above expressed their opinion and I haven't...
Instead of having a good scene, have fun, enjoy and dance, every promoter is looking how he will 'knock down' the other.i think that there is place for all, at least if they are serious, if not someday all of you, you will be wondering of what you have done...
Some promoters keep bringing the same names, f.e. mikeonacid...very good evolution of the cypriot scene..
All promoters are seeing us like goats and I've heard it from most of them several times. These "goats" are giving you their money, at least they deserve some respect...These goats can knock you down if they will get upset and do not think that this will never happen.
All these things are killing and destroying the trance scene...I do not wonder why in the house or other music scenes, things are not at all like that...
Alex Candy and Code Red you got my biggest applause you said it all....
And odysseus.....http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/24930/forum/17/start/0
i want to thanks all of you for your good comments!!
especially the (brothers)from cyprus..
have a nice day!!
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odysseus
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:00
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ok lets make an open air party with free enterance sponsored by candyflip!!!!
it will be a killer party!!
just for the spirit and the sweet memories!!!
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XrTC
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:14
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very funny this thread...
in the topic you talk about scumbugs. give me an explanation on this one please. cos when afterwards you come and say "take the other promoters down, finish them off" etc, i don't see how different you are from these 'scumbugs' u mention. and you talk about making a black-list? you are a promoter and you want to put other promoters in a black list, how appropriate! why not letting the people decide?
i am not with anyone and furthermore not with any promoter. i have learned very well that no1 is a 'saint' in this 'business'. i personally don't trust any promoter anymore and this is not my fault. it's all the promoters' fault. i've heard all the world's promises, i've seen promoters trying to look good, seemingly doing things "for the people". but you know what? since there's money involved in this 'business', it automatically means that no actions are honest any more, done from the heart. it suddenly becomes all about money, even if you fail to realise it (although i am pretty sure you are aware of it).
i'll say it once more i am not with any promoter and i got an advice that goes out to all the promoters. if you want to do the right thing then put all your efforts down into making things that will satisfy your "clients" (once we were called trancers, doh!). try being better than the other promoter, in terms of what you offer. inevitably, you are offering a product here. now, if you wanna be better you have to think about how to make this product better quality-wise and price-wise.
spare us the fights between you and your tries to take each other down, cos in the end you end up hurting us -the people- and ultimately the scene. i've seen personal differences between promoters in the past causing smth wonderful to be destroyed. do you want that?
alright, the fact is that people nowadays spend more time trying to degrade the others instead of trying to improve themselfs. even so, we are part of a 'movement' that is supposed to open our minds / help keep them open, offer smth different from the standard "materialistic" way of living, make us stop for a moment and THINK! intelligent music for intelligent people they say.................
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Respect is earned, not demanded...
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tim@motion
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:19
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On 2005-03-29 14:36, Code Red wrote:
You want to start a blacklist with promoters from all over Greece?
Good, start with this disgraced guy here.
Just read carefuly his post and you will understand many things about the way he thinks of trance events when he refers to them as 'doulia', the way he thinks about other promoters and about the way he deals with other people with words like 'finish him, we will support you in order to do so'.
Odysseus you are a big disgrace for our country, you and your partners that talk about black lists and about banning other promoters and about ignoring progressive trance events just because there are not enough money in that music.
I am going to puke.......
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code red eternal motion made the most prog events this year are you joking? 
About the black list ,why don't you let the ppl decide about it?
You can visit neraida next saturday if you like,and you will see how much black listed are eternal motions events.
Disgrase is your accusation about drugs etc...you are so upset that the only thing that bothers you is how you can attack on eternal motion....of course the best combination for a steady trance scene is to be a PROFESSIONAL trancer.You don't like the word "job" or you think that these kind of events are not a job.Well it is!and it is a very very hard one.
Anyways...
once more i am asking you
ANY SERIOUS PROPOSAL AGAINST FRAUDS?????
I guess that you know how to read english
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Alex Candy
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:21
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odysseus, my friend, i see you are sore from my comments...but why? 
spirit and sweet memories..??...and btw what does candyflip have to do with it? be serious..
I did not mention any party organisers' names neither any shop's name...don't turn it personal
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Code Red
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:29
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Your resident dj Absolutzero in another post complained about to many progressive parties taking place in your area not me, he was also wonderning what is the point of making a party like this if there are not enough money involved, so it must be you who is joking and not me.
The people can decide on their own who they will support and who not, we dont need promoters that fight with other promoters to tell us who to black list and who not.
I am not accusing anyone about the drug situation at Neraida, i just stated what i saw inside the party area but mostly in the parking when i visited your event on new year eve, no accusations here, just facts.
You want a serious proposal against frauds?
Just do your thing as a promoter, whatever that is, and leave us alone to decide where to go and where we will not, thanks for your guidance but we dont need it, we dont need people with 30 and 40 euro entrance prices to tell us what to do.
Organise your events and let us decide where we will pay our nice money with out posts about black lists and frauds. |
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griniaris
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:35
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I am so happy when I see so well thinking persons! Good for you! Nice saikentelades we got here! Oh I forgot! I like this proposal of yours! Let the ppl decide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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odysseus
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:36
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sore"? not of cource..
i am serious!!
i proposal u to make an apen air party with free entrance but u will be the sponsore!!!
it is a good way to promote your label and to enjoy an open air free entrance party and have fun to gether!!!
sometimes its very easy only to proposal free entrance events and complain about the promoters..
so its time to make something new..
lets a make a free open air party with candyflip artists just for fun..  |
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odysseus
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:45
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On 2005-03-29 14:36, Code Red wrote:
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On 2005-03-29 11:01, odysseus wrote:
no he is not.just he thinks that he is clever..
koinos tous ksipnisate kala kala ke tora pane na sas fane ti doulia...
don"t let them to do that to you...
finish with him..
i hope you got my point mike!!
you gonna have all our help for that!!
rave 4 ravers,trance for trancers,house to houselovers.
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You want to start a blacklist with promoters from all over Greece?
Good, start with this disgraced guy here.
Just read carefuly his post and you will understand many things about the way he thinks of trance events when he refers to them as 'doulia', the way he thinks about other promoters and about the way he deals with other people with words like 'finish him, we will support you in order to do so'.
Odysseus you are a big disgrace for our country, you and your partners that talk about black lists and about banning other promoters and about ignoring progressive trance events just because there are not enough money in that music.
I am going to puke.......
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eternal motion never ignored progressive trance music and allways support new CLEAN promoters like f.f and twilight zone..
promoters that never say lies neither to the ppl neither to the artists,promoter that allways keep their promises and their worth..
you can ask also:
frogacult,oliver,emok,sbk,andromeda,xibalba,soul serfer,haldolium,symphonix,freq,ticon,atmos,neelix and many more...
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Alex Candy
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Posted : Mar 29, 2005 15:52
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i think u got it wrong somehow my friend...u see we don't make parties- u do! You are the main party organiser in town- even if you do not want to admit it in public- it's your call....
and from the bookings u make u don't seem to like candyflip artists or djs...so i guess u would defintely prefer a free party with different artists e? so no need to talk nonsense anyway
if we sold loads of cds and made a lot of money we would definetely throw a free label party e.g. once a year...but this is not the case and u know it 100%-being the owner of a shop selling cds....u prefer to promote israeli cds and -not a label from your hometown- but that's ok, we get very little support in Greece and we are used to it....so i am not telling you what to do and have nothing against you...but don't play smart without thinking...it does not complement you...
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