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For what reasons do you think different regions of the US have different psy preferences/styles?

Danrennt98
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Posted : Oct 12, 2013 05:31:03
My experience has been through what I've been to and what I read on here.. though everyone has the full spectrum of subgenres

NYC: Full on/Prog/Zenonesque, but they have their full spectrum
Boston: New to the Boston scene, but it's been full spectrum so far, but nothing as far as crazy nighttime
Southeast: Dark preference
Texas: Dark preference
Iowa/Midwest: Dark preference but all spectrums
California: California-style dark (Freqs of Nature, Dylalien, Mistress of Evil) but also a lot of full on (Kahn, etc.) parties as well

Take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm just generalizing from my experiences and it'd be nice to have a good discussion on the NA forum, since nothing seems to be going on here, at all.

What historical and regional preferences do you think influenced the styles of music that we listen to and play in terms of psytrance?
Danrennt98
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Posted : Oct 12, 2013 05:55
Hailing from NJ, I think that a lot of the prog/full on preferences have to do with the club scene. NYC has a huge amount of people who are new to parties and come from the Pacha, Crobar (closed), etc scene that get higher ticket sales when there's a lot of progressive DJs at a party. Sure, there's the regulars, but also a lot of past parties have been held at clubs like Exit where people will go no matter what's playing. In the 2005 - 2008 scene there was a decent amount of dark parties or a mix at a party (but the headliners were dark, goa gil new years, orestis, electrypnose, psykovsky), but that seems to have faded out.

There's certainly not the same amount of parties or maybe I'm missing them because they're private, but the major promoters have sort of fizzled out.
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Posted : Oct 12, 2013 06:32
yeah, it is interesting and it really makes you wonder about why each region is drawn to their respective style.

when i was into the boston psy scene it was reeeaally prog heavy with almost no voice for the harder styles. meanwhile, up in Montreal/Quebec (which living in boston, i think was the best scene to visit) it was all straight hard psychedelic trance with no voice for prog or dark or whatever else (which suited me just fine). now i'm out in northern california and any of the parties i've seen listed so far are lots of dark stuff....which is weird because the sun is shining every day and the general populace seems like a merry folk.

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Posted : Dec 26, 2013 18:04
northern california has a few different styles that are prevalent vector, you'll see alot of the dark or "full power" stuff at undergrounds and outdoor parties, there is still full on to be found as well, and pulse seems to do a good blend of prog and full on. otherwise it can run the range of speedy and wacky to dark and crunchy, san francisco seems to get a pretty constant cycle of international artists roaming through in addition to the top caliber talent that makes the city home. but yea I know what you mean, it'll be noon and still fast. if you like more prog and full on kind of stuff you have to hunt for the right shows but its there if you look for it.
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Posted : Dec 30, 2013 08:04
In so cal you have Psytribe and Greensector who tend to cater to the full on/prog crowd. Moontribe collective has been throwing events here since the 90's and they've always been about techno. Lately they've been expanding their horizons by including a bit of psytech. There's a handful of party promoters who also have been dabbling in psytech (Electric Cocoon and Desert Hearts to name a few). Aside from Psytribe, if you're at a party and you hear psytrance I can almost guarantee you that it's going to be progressive or psytech.

Psycircle used to throw parties in mojave that catered to the dark/forest crowd but bodhi moved up north. It's no surprise that dark psy is prevalent in norcal but dead down here. About the only place you'll hear some dark/high tech down is if you crossed the border. It's quite popular in the ensenada/rosarito/tijuana area.


Kind of a shame because I like having variety. If I knew anything about throwing events, i'd throw a dark/forest party in a heartbeat.
kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Jan 2, 2014 23:15
I would say Neo Goa and Prog Psy are what mostly move folks in the South.           
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Jan 10, 2014 00:45
I feel the southeast is full of lots of variety and the people are moved by several sounds.

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Posted : Jan 14, 2014 03:40
Well I'd say Northern Cali likes mostly dark stuff, but no faster than 155bpm, Parvati has a stronghold there, midwest likes all spectrum of dark, and hitech, those are the only two regions I have been to so far. Hoping to be invited to Equinox to play this year...           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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Posted : Jan 20, 2014 13:45
I need to move to norcal.
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Posted : Jan 21, 2014 15:03
Well different parts of the world also have different styles / preferences, and in fact each region is known to be a pioneer in a certain kind of sound.

In fact when it first started happening it was really exciting.

Like remember the Russians and their onslaught of the dance floor with their 'killer' darkpsy, or the South Africans and their punchy, groovy but still proper psychedelic tunes. The Finnish of course were on a whole different frequency so you never heard suomi style psy at parties in Goa. And I could go on...

I guess the reasons for such differences are definitely due to regional differences in environment, society, prior musical influences etc...

For example, the Israeli Full On sound is a cheesy, uplifting kind of sound that counterbalanced the high stress, seriousness of army life. Not my personal opinion but I remember reading this somewhere.

And a lot of the Russian producers came from an industrial or metal scene. Again, I'm not stating this as a fact, but just trying to highlight how or why differences can emerge.

Anyway, for the U.S., I'm sure, many of the same reasons would apply to regional differences. It also seems like where the scene is smaller, more out door / open air gathering focused, and consists primarily of full time freaks the sound will be different from city, indoor life, where there are a lot of people who enjoy this music and the vibe, but have another life to live as well, as corporate employees or whatever.

It's interesting that this wasn't the case with the older Goa trance sound. Or was it? Never heard much of the old stuff, i.e. pre late 90s.
soospicey
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Posted : Feb 3, 2014 20:52
its quite obvious that the fluctuating levels of fluoride in the water in different regions are affecting peoples taste in psytrance....           http://soundcloud.com/soospicey
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Posted : Feb 4, 2014 19:42
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On 2014-02-03 20:52, soospicey wrote:
its quite obvious that the fluctuating levels of fluoride in the water in different regions are affecting peoples taste in psytrance....




so true.
konvndrvm
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Posted : Feb 10, 2014 02:12
At the very least that's what was affecting peoples usage of IsraTrance.           soundcloud.com/konundrum
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Posted : Feb 17, 2014 03:27
...i read fluoride as flouride, which in turn made me think of flour, which then, further in turn...made me think of cake. Now i want cake.            WARNING: The Reality Master General has determined that Mr. Vomit may significantly alter your reality. Usage of the knowledge provided by Mr. Vomit may be perceived as dangerous and subversive by those in authority.
Moonclear
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Posted : Mar 17, 2014 20:33
Hi,

As an NYC organizer (Syzygies; Psykcick Events) I usually favor my own scene, which I find intense and energetic. I like to hear a coherent journey incorporating various styles (like I tried to do at Enthalpy) or perhaps banging dark and forest sounds all nite.

Speaking personally I have always liked Israeli anthems. The music at Exit (mentioned above) might have been substandard at times - I guess when some (otherwise famous) act would pull out its worst tracks. (Ahem! These bum DJ antics have plagued me as well. not good) Nevertheless Shiva Jorg, Ghreg on Earth, Protoculture, Zion, and I think Visual Paradox all played well-sounding sets there.

To my mind after the carefree bleeps of the Synthetic Sadhus era (early 2000s) the melodic trance was somewhat replaced by the dark and forest sounds I mentioned; nevertheless Talamasca's harmonious sonic sweeps (at the Sullivan Room and the Lab) seemed well received by the crowd.

Another standout set recently was Primordial Ooze at Sullivan; this gave my life and breath for eternity.

At this point I think our much vaunted forest sound would well suit a more outdoor environment and I'd like to see my fellow orgs gear up for more outdoor fests. I myself (Psykcick Events) have a portable 1000-watt power (built-in amp) speaker. Does anybody know if generators lighter than 45 lbs exist ???

I take PMs. I am always inviting people to work with me but, please, no more criminals. There's no other experience like looking up the FBI Most Wanted only to find one's former business partner staring up from the madding crowd. I have a thick skin, but that was extreme.

The Providence psy parties at Therapy used to be beyond brilliant, but Therapy closed; supposedly they had rent issues; too lame, since they were one of the few afterhours in that city. I haven't been to Boston or SF psy in a while. Semirecently I've had lots of fun in NC, Philly and in the cra-Z and super hi-NrG Tijuana, that is to say I loved looking at the bonny people there but I must be honest, Kindzadza's 5-hr live set left me cold. Still he has some awesumm new tracks. "thanx pinky" and "Intergalactic Boom" come to mind.

I'd like to visit Vegas, Florida and SoCal scenes as well as Psyowa.

Finally, in terms of inviting people that's something I sometimes do .. We try to take basic health and safety precautions at and around parties to ensure a minimum of drama as well as enjoyment for everyone.

In conclusion, I can't stand facebook anymore and I am planning on shifting my focus to isratrance.

Have a nice day

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