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djcan51
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 09:46
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Hi~guy I love trance so much
i've only listened to trance never created one before
now i feel like i want to create some
so... what equipment do i need at least?
i just bought axiom 61 midi keyboard(cause i like the fact that it had drum pad), but about to return it cause it goes off and on constantly...(i heard i can create music just with midi keyboard alone and program.)
So i'm willing to get keyboard you guys suggest.
I really don't know anything about equipments, also don't even knokw what to ask lol
So pls tell me what i need at least(keyboard must?), and how you guys started at first when you had no clue on equipment or so..
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 14:25
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You need a sequencer/DAW application. (DAW stands for Digital Audio Workstation). There are quite a few choices: Reason, Ableton Live, Fruity Loops, Cubase, Sonar, Logic, Reaper, Orion, Project 5 etc
Most released artists use one of the following: Cubase, Logic, Ableton Live, Fruity Loops, Sonar. (Probably in that order of popularity but I'm not entirely sure). But you can easily start with a less expensive (and easier to learn) application like Reason or Fruity Loops. Reason 4 a and Fruity can be integrated in the other sequencers if and when you feel you need to expand your tools.
Logic is for Mac only. Cubase, Live and Reason are for Macs and PCs. Sonar is for PC only. Fruity Loops is also only PC (I think).
The next thing you need is a computer (duh  ), some input device (A Keyboard is indeed very nice although some seem to manage with only a mouse), and speakers. (As soon as you get serious, you need some proper studio monitors but you can start off with PC or HiFi speakers to see if this music creation thing is really for you).
Most people will agree that the included software instruments and effects in most DAWs are just a starting point. You can find many free (and commercial) instruments and effects at http://www.kvraudio.com
Take your time to read all the "Mother Off..." threads and all the other topics that are sticky at the top of the forum. That should give you all the basics of trance production. Also make good use of the search function of this forum. You will find allot of useful info.
Good luck on your quest and have fun! 
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Spycht
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 17:04
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I have the same problem with my Axiom and it rarely gets used because of it. The screen flashes in and out and every once in awhile the computer will have to re-setup the hardware. Anybody happen to know what the deal is? Might the problem stop with a full blown adapter instead of USB power? |
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acidkills
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 18:11
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Axiom is all what u need to create music.. I am so disappointed with your reports, I think Axiom 49 is great controller.. Dont know about that 61.. does 49 version also has same problems?
If I was on your place I would return it to the seller and ask for another or a money back.. Immediately..
In general.. You need a keyboard with MIDI I/O and a decent soundcard..
Other is all up to software, u need DAW and plugins for it(VSTi-Virtual Studio Technology instruments) and u got yourself your virtual studio..
Like undertow said, instruments that come with your DAW are not much(personaly first thing I do after installing DAW is deleting native instruments)..
Than when u have equipment u need knowledge and yes you can get bits and pieces in "mother of.." threads but I recommend reading some books on the topic and watch some video tutorials for quick start..
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Suloo
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 23:02
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On 2008-01-28 09:46, djcan51 wrote:
Hi~guy I love trance so much
i've only listened to trance never created one before
now i feel like i want to create some
so... what equipment do i need at least?
i just bought axiom 61 midi keyboard(cause i like the fact that it had drum pad), but about to return it cause it goes off and on constantly...(i heard i can create music just with midi keyboard alone and program.)
So i'm willing to get keyboard you guys suggest.
I really don't know anything about equipments, also don't even knokw what to ask lol
So pls tell me what i need at least(keyboard must?), and how you guys started at first when you had no clue on equipment or so..
thank you guys~
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Hey..you could even have a look at my forum and site..i collected some maybe useful posts of 2007 from this forum..and i even wrote a specific tutorial about ableton live..feel free to ask what you want..
greez
http://www.dark-zlime.de.tl
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 23:20
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On 2008-01-28 17:04, Spycht wrote:
Might the problem stop with a full blown adapter instead of USB power?
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Could well be. Not all USB ports give enough power.
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MadScientist
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 23:27
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I dont really know whats your problem with daw's native plugs guys, but I think you should have a deeper look at those that are coming with logic
https://soundcloud.com/hazak
"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!" |
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acidkills
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Posted : Jan 29, 2008 01:30
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djcan51
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Posted : Jan 30, 2008 14:26
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Thank you guys all for such a good commnets
SO..I'm about to return my axiom61...which midi keyboard should i change to?
And I have reason 4.0...(+ comp and headset)
So that's all i need right?
Then how do i learn creating trance?
Like you learn Do re mi...for piano first.
What's my next step? |
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Suloo
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Posted : Jan 30, 2008 20:35
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On 2008-01-30 14:26, djcan51 wrote:
Thank you guys all for such a good commnets
SO..I'm about to return my axiom61...which midi keyboard should i change to?
And I have reason 4.0...(+ comp and headset)
So that's all i need right?
Then how do i learn creating trance?
Like you learn Do re mi...for piano first.
What's my next step?
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Axiom 49..never got any problems...so its just your piece i guess..think its a great controller as well..
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Suloo
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Posted : Jan 30, 2008 20:37
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On 2008-01-28 23:27, MadScientist wrote:
I dont really know whats your problem with daw's native plugs guys, but I think you should have a deeper look at those that are coming with logic
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Cubase native sucks.. But steinberg has good vst separately.. |
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you mean the ones of cubase 4?i think they are great..well the presets might not be that cool..but presets?tweak em and they rock..in my opinion..
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acidkills
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Posted : Jan 31, 2008 09:26
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you mean the ones of cubase 4?i think they are great..well the presets might not be that cool..but presets?tweak em and they rock..in my opinion..
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I knew axiom is great, it just has to be.. If I wouldnt have a synth it would be in my setup for sure..
I meant Cubase SX3.. So u got Cubase 4? Cracked?
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Suloo
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Posted : Jan 31, 2008 09:46
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On 2008-01-31 09:26, acidkills wrote:
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you mean the ones of cubase 4?i think they are great..well the presets might not be that cool..but presets?tweak em and they rock..in my opinion..
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I meant Cubase SX3.. So u got Cubase 4? Cracked?
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no not cracked..original education version..bought it right after release..ok..you cannot realy compare those synths with a predator,albino or whatever..but you can get very nice results out of them and they sound very nice to me..
actualy right know i use cubase just as audio editor.. i switched to live..i think its more fun,but thats just my taste..i like it to set the tracks right down and down in session view so i could just switch between all of them in one big session one day..and i get things done faster in live..thats the main point for me..
but well.. i never used the abe live synths yet..didn`t buy them..just the sequencer even as edu version and i think there are only one or two inside..never tried or had a search..
cheers
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jan 31, 2008 15:09
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On 2008-01-28 23:27, MadScientist wrote:
I dont really know whats your problem with daw's native plugs guys, but I think you should have a deeper look at those that are coming with logic
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Also Sonar 7 comes with Rapture and Z3ta+ which are excellent soft synth! (And a few other useful tools).
UnderTow
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UnderTow
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Posted : Jan 31, 2008 15:14
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On 2008-01-30 14:26, djcan51 wrote:
And I have reason 4.0...(+ comp and headset)
So that's all i need right?
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That is enough to get started. Just be very careful to not to damage your hearing working with headphones. People tend to turn headphones up too loud to try and get the kind of impact that real bass from speakers gives. Damaging your ears is not a good way to start.
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Then how do i learn creating trance?
Like you learn Do re mi...for piano first.
What's my next step?
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I don't know any musical theory so I would say that it isn't absolutely necessary. But I'm sure it helps those that do know their Do Re Mi's...
For the rest, just start messing with Reason and see what comes out of it. When you start feeling limited because of lack of knowledge or whatever, you will know which questions to ask.
UnderTow
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