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Focusrite Saffire users

Fragletrollet
Fragletrollet

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Posted : Apr 29, 2008 18:19:09
Hey there. Im buying a new laptop, and I have the Saffire I want to use it with. Please post the laptop you are using with this interface, and how it works.

I used to have a dell, as everyone should know by now, with crappy 1394 so it wouldnt work properly.           http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
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yveusss


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Posted : Apr 29, 2008 18:45
Hello Fraggletrollet,
I have a Saffire LE that i use with a desktop pc so I can't tell. I use it with a cheapo firewirecard with a texas instrument chipset : works perfectly except that I have to plug the external power.
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Posted : Apr 29, 2008 20:49
well a friends saffire works smooth in hes and mine toshiba laptop! (texas 1394)           http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
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Alex Roudos
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Posted : Apr 29, 2008 21:42
I have the Saffire Pro 10 on PC. It works great. But be aware that the Saffire series(and other Focusrite products like the Liquid Mix) is "allergic" to the Nec firewire chipset even though Focusrite recommends it.

TI and VIA chipsets will work fine.
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psylevation
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Posted : Apr 29, 2008 23:30
I've seen alot of problems stemming from AMD chips. I know I have one with an Nforce4 chipset and I have a lot of problems with firewire. I had to install a pci-e firewire interface to get my m-audio 410 working properly.

Just thought I'd make mention, it may be something you'd want to look into if you decide on anything like this chipset or an AMD processor, even though you are looking at laptops.
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Alex Roudos
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Posted : Apr 30, 2008 00:45
Quote:

On 2008-04-29 23:30, psylevation wrote:
I've seen alot of problems stemming from AMD chips. I know I have one with an Nforce4 chipset and I have a lot of problems with firewire. I had to install a pci-e firewire interface to get my m-audio 410 working properly.

Just thought I'd make mention, it may be something you'd want to look into if you decide on anything like this chipset or an AMD processor, even though you are looking at laptops.




That is very strange. My pc is a AMD Athlon XP 3.7 and my mobo has the nForce4 chipset. I never had any issues regarding this combo. The only problem i ever had was when i tried to connect my Saffire or Liquid Mix when demoing it, using a Nec chipset firewire pci card.           A friend told me once that the biggest mistake we make is that we believe we live, when in reality we are sleeping in the waiting room of life.
Speakafreaka
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Posted : Apr 30, 2008 03:05
Quote:

On 2008-04-29 23:30, psylevation wrote:
I've seen alot of problems stemming from AMD chips. I know I have one with an Nforce4 chipset and I have a lot of problems with firewire. I had to install a pci-e firewire interface to get my m-audio 410 working properly.

Just thought I'd make mention, it may be something you'd want to look into if you decide on anything like this chipset or an AMD processor, even though you are looking at laptops.




Oh?

A saffire LE running great on an nForce 4 ultra board with an AMD 64 here... (until the quad coreage arrives in the post anyways)

but anyways, you'll struggle to find that in a laptop.

But yeah, you need a laptop with TI or VIA to be sure, as it says on the focusrite site.

And the laptop maunfacturers don't advertise it, so you need to get in contact with them. If they don't get back to you, scratch them from your list. If the can't be bothered to sell you the machine, what is the chance that they will support it properly when there is no financial incentive.

I couldn't find one I was happy with, so reconsidered my options.          .
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Leo Atriohm
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Posted : Apr 30, 2008 18:58
dell inspiron 1520....working perfectly!!
Fragletrollet
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Posted : Apr 30, 2008 19:35
wich one is that in european model?           http://www.myspace.com/fragletrollet
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psylevation
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Posted : Apr 30, 2008 21:17
from the RME website

"Verdict

At present the NF4 single cpu chipset cannot be recommended for demanding pro DAW work. Multimedia users, recording hobbyists or semi-pro DAW users who use a limited combination of streamed audio tracks, samples and/or VSTis may not face the aforementioned limitations and performance may be as good as on any comparative platform.

The single cpu nForce3 @ socket 939 (AMD 64 cpu) and Intel 875 (Pentium IV cpu) chipsets are well-proven under different DAW workflows and match well with RMEs soundcards for pro audio usage.

DAW users who want to invest in single cpu/PCI-Express/SLI-equipped motherboards are currently on their own territory and glitch-free DAW performance under heavy load cannot be guaranteed. If used - it is currently recommended to try with low-performing video cards (such as ATI Radeon X300 or Nvidia 6200), in combination with PCI-E equipped mainboards as to minimize the risks of PCI-PCI Express performance penalty in time-critical DAW-PCI data transfer events.

Users interested in DAW performance development of NF4/PCI-E equipped mainboards are encouraged to download DAW stress test files, such as Thonex (Cubase SX/Nuendo; http://www.adkproaudio.com/downloads.cfm) or the Orangine (Cubase SX/Nuendo; http://www.citriq.com/sonomatica/sistemas/Orangine-Stress%20Test%20SX.rar), follow the adjoined instructions, and report their detailed hardware configuration and test results. Readers are further encouraged to follow future and updated reports via subject matter-related threads at major DAW forums (including the RME forum)."

So it's more a combination of pci-e/sli equiped nforce4 chipset motherboards...I really just want to warn people because it has caused all kinds of problems for me.

I'm glad to see it's working great for some of you.


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psylevation
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Posted : Apr 30, 2008 21:21
also check this about the nforce 4 chipset

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2358

and this

http://forums.presonus.com/archive/index.php/t-843.html

and this from the presonus faq

http://psfaq.presonus.com/index.php?sid=1&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=20&id=48&artlang=en

the following is from their faq "hardware that is incompatable"

"Motherboards with nForce4 chipsets. Symptoms include reduced to very poor performance especially if using the onboard firewire connection. A PCIe (not PCI) FW400 only card with a Texas Instruments chipset is a known workaround, but may not allow full performance."

So as you can see I'm really not just blowing hot air out of my ass

Sorry to load up your topic with something you probably wont run into anyway, I just wanted to warn people because of my own bad experience.           ~Airyck~
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Apr 30, 2008 22:48
Dude, what are you talking about?

a) the saffire is focusrite, not RME or Presonus, totally different kettle of fish - they often suggest different chipsets, and often discourage use of one the other suggests.

b) the Saffire is firewire, not pci-e.

c) nForce 4 is totally redundant

d) of course your mileage may vary, but, with my nForce 4 ultra SLI board, socket 939 AMD64 and pci-e gcard, Cubase itself gobbles all the addressable memory in the system long before the audio dies. (which is related to my G-card), and chugs along quite happily at 95% system load as long as I keep the total system memory load under 1.4 gigs (around the point where everyone's Cubase starts to go wrong)

Now. We are talking about laptops, which work with Focusrite Saffire.

Do you know anything about current, laptop chipsets, or are you, as you put it, just blowing hot air out of your ass?
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psylevation
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Posted : May 1, 2008 21:36
With the nforce4 chipset on the sli (pci-e) equipped motherboards, the pci-e interface causes problesm with the "on board" firewire because the firewire is linked through the pci-e configuration. Anyway you're right lets get back on topic.

No worries, if it works for you thats good.

I've seen quite a few IBM THINKPADS (laptops) that work well with firewire cards installed, where others wouldn't work.

There is something relevant

Also thinkpads have been used on a lot of space missions, in case you were planning to make tracks in space sometime

Oh wait now I'm being irrelevant again.

I'm just trying to help in general, I'm not saying I am a know all computer guru, I'm just stating my experience thats all and posting information I've found.

Please carry on, sorry to get in the way.
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psylevation
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Posted : May 1, 2008 22:00
oh

Compal IFL90 (Sager 2090) has a TI chipset

Also some IBM Levino's have the TI chipset as well.


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