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Ascension
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 20:35
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PsYmOrPh
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 20:46
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i think the best synths are the FM , try use two oscillators in albino the first one in FM and the other to filter and try different octaves in both, amazing synths... |
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 20:51
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but its really that simple, as in frequency modulation carrier signal is modulated by the frequency of the modulator so in amplitude modulation carrier is modulated with amplitude or level of the wave that is being sent, the modulator..
but let me highjack a thread..
how to do FM radio effect like changing stations in such a way that I can use my samples for stations..
I seen some plugin in logic and Im lookin for the vst equivalent.. http://www.facebook.com/xrayzproductions
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pleiadian
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 20:51
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On 2009-04-15 20:35, Ascension wrote:
Key word: explain
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I think an osc modulates the amplitude of another osc instead... not the freaquency, so it actually a tremolo effect
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 20:55
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shellbound
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 23:12
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On 2009-04-15 20:51, x-rayz wrote:
but let me highjack a thread..
how to do FM radio effect like changing stations in such a way that I can use my samples for stations..
I seen some plugin in logic and Im lookin for the vst equivalent..
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i would think it'd be easier to actually sample something like this and then edit audio, rather than synthesize it. unless you are interested in this more for educational purposes...
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 16, 2009 00:36
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yeah, of course it would be easier, but that would mean I wouldnt have control of samples which play on different stations..
closest thing I found on PC was this radiofx VST
http://love1kt.harisen.jp/vst.html
it enables u to load samples and play them and shuffle like on radio which is basically what I have in mind.. The problem is that VST, when tuned to the stations produces noise, to sound like on old radio, but I dont want that, I just want noise between the stations..
I watched that video SOUND which 0Hz posted.
In it, the guy loads a sample, and in logic uses plugin which only has one slider, and when u move it it shuffle between noise and sample, just like on radio.
Now how to do that on pc, theres gotta be a way..
I mean, I could program a VST like that radiofx in synthedit but there must be some quicker way..
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the daleks
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Posted : Apr 16, 2009 06:12
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On 2009-04-16 00:36, x-rayz wrote:
I watched that video SOUND which 0Hz posted.
In it, the guy loads a sample, and in logic uses plugin which only has one slider, and when u move it it shuffle between noise and sample, just like on radio.
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Hi x-rayz
could you point me to a link for that video?
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 16, 2009 09:04
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shellbound
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Posted : Apr 16, 2009 16:42
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On 2009-04-16 00:36, x-rayz wrote:
yeah, of course it would be easier, but that would mean I wouldnt have control of samples which play on different stations..
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actually, what i meant is for you to sample the "transitions" from an actual radio. and then use your samples and these sampled transitions to make it sound smooth (crossfading the audio samples, etc). now how much of a pain in the ass that would be and how realistic you can get it to sound, i don't know. just an idea of how you could possibly do it without synthesizing this.
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 16, 2009 17:37
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aha.. yes, its possible in that way, I didnt get u the first time.. it is possible and it wouldnt be so much pain in the neck but I would really love to synthesize it to understand it better. I mean I could comb filter some noize with lfo and all but that wouldnt be exact thing.
That plugin in Logic amazed me, and I just cant stand that I cant do it on PC. There must be a way.
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the daleks
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 10:52
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hey x-rayz, I saw the video, and what he's using isn't a plugin, but an environment object/fader. in Logic you can use the environment in a MaxMSP kind of way to make your own faders/functions, etc. some people even went so far as to build analog type sequencers and other midi effects machines.
in that video i dont know if he is using some kind of custom coded fader to crossfade samples etc, but what I suspect is that he is just playing back a sample and using a dummy fader to make it look like he is changing radio stations...
unfortunately I think its just a case of good showmanship. to do what you want to do I think septa is right about the crossfading sample / mixing in noise route.
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 14:37
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hey bro, thank u very much, u and septa helped a lot!
so basically if I would have MaxMSP I could be able to do such thing in ableton? Well maybe I would need ableton 8 for that since I think Max is included in Live 8..
or, If I get it right, u mean hes just using dummy crossfader to make it look like he is changing stations while actually he crossfades between sample and and noise which septa sugjested from the start?
so hes actually faking it if thats correct.. and theres no way to synthesize that in such realistic way like on real radio station by means of FM synthesis?
damn, I was so puzzled of what hes doing, the guy tricked me like a kid, I cant believe it..
at least I could go further and try to synthesize radio station noise and crossfade between that..
or I could recreate that plugin radio fx and instead of just noise between stations I could invole sampled noise from real radio shuffling..
second option would be good cause its hard to do it with just one crossfader in live if u wanna have few different "stations"..
now what bugs me is how the guy who made the plugin connected the faders, cause its far more complicated than one crossfader used in that logic video..
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 14:46
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hmm or just simply use Vember audio Surge
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 14:59
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