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FM lead driving me nutz

marcz
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 15:38:44
You all are pretty much aware of all the fm leads out there, guess its pretty common.
But its still sexy as hell.
Theres this one that ive been trying to get for such a long time now and i just cant get it right.







It comes in after a few seconds.

I know how to make fm/saw leads and all that but i somehow never end up with this type of bouncy, snappy, spreading type of sound.
Just the ordinary flat electric sound with a little panning.

So my question is not how to make that particulary sound, rather how to get that groovy/bouncy/spreading effect.
Guess that pretty much comes with making the sound as well, but yeah, you get my point

boomboom
demoniac
Demoniac Insomniac

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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 17:11
this is insector or furious track, i think the sound is made with virus, it's not a usual saw oscilator, i think there is complex wave form used here
yeah is very fat, maybe there is some layering used in here
try to create the sound with Komplexer Vsti you can get similar results           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
http://www.activemeditationmusic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=703&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7
makus
Overdream

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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 17:30
i think thats from NL2x. when i owned it there was this sound on patch #34, if i'm correct, but i'm not sure if this one is factory patch, because i took it second hand lol

now, i really understood what the real fm is only after i bought the first hardware synth. didn't manage to get that fat, sharp metallic sound out of software.

btw if someone did please tell where from!          
www.overdreamstudio.com
demoniac
Demoniac Insomniac

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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 18:14
try this one :
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hwiryv
i made it on zebra 2

put low pass on 9 khz and high pass on 900 hz

make a fast compression and put a limiter also for getting that fat sound.
it's not the same but is close           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
http://www.activemeditationmusic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=703&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7
marcz
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 22:05
thanks a bunch guys.
i downloaded your upload demoniac, will check it out later on. thanks alot for uploading.

boomboom
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 23:28
pritty sure its nord 2 sound.
i have exacly one like this lol #8 on my bank.           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
demoniac
Demoniac Insomniac

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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 00:30
maybe you can make a patch on discovery or synth1?
or too hard to achieve this sound on vst?           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
http://www.activemeditationmusic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=703&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 00:40
fm is the biggest difference from discovery to nord
maybe albino can come close.. thinking of its unique fm sound.. good start is cosmosis patches

next sample cd i will share on my website:
nord lead 2 psy effects

          www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
geekhorde
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 04:36
Yeah, pretty sure you can get something close to this in Albino, but not sure how quite yet. I'll perform experiments and report my results.

Also, this thread reminded me of a joke. Why did the pirate have the steering wheel in him pants? 'Argh, it's drivin' me nuts!'
braininavat


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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 15:09
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On 2010-02-03 17:30, makus wrote:
now, i really understood what the real fm is only after i bought the first hardware synth. didn't manage to get that fat, sharp metallic sound out of software.



I think its hard to say if this patch is a virus or NL. If its hard to get this sound from software its because the FM index does not go high enough. Part of this sound is having the FM index higher than what most other forms of music would want. Thats why you can't really get these sounsd from a DX7 series synth.
Albino should get you close, I'll try to post a reaktor synth that has a more extreme FM index.
braininavat


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Posted : Feb 4, 2010 15:26
Here is a simple reaktor patch for this sound that took 5 minutes to make.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0e4itx

Just play and tweak the filter cutoff by hand a little bit. The bouncy effect is from tweaking the cutoff by hand and not automation.
The biggest part that effect the sound for these type of patches are the different between the pitch of osc1 and 2 and the FM amt.
If you look inside the synth you can see FM amt is just scaling the amplitude of the modulating oscilator. Most vsti don't let you scale it enough though for this kind of sound.
Another thing that sucks with not having FM amt go high enough is you can't do much with tri/sins as modulators like you can on nord/virus.
demoniac
Demoniac Insomniac

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Posted : Feb 5, 2010 14:57
here is a patch for fm 8 i made, play with the oscilator, and put a insert high pass filter with little saturation.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/i9zfgq           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
http://www.activemeditationmusic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=703&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7
demoniac
Demoniac Insomniac

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Posted : Sep 8, 2010 11:59
Quote:

On 2010-02-04 15:26, braininavat wrote:
Here is a simple reaktor patch for this sound that took 5 minutes to make.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0e4itx

Just play and tweak the filter cutoff by hand a little bit. The bouncy effect is from tweaking the cutoff by hand and not automation.
The biggest part that effect the sound for these type of patches are the different between the pitch of osc1 and 2 and the FM amt.
If you look inside the synth you can see FM amt is just scaling the amplitude of the modulating oscilator. Most vsti don't let you scale it enough though for this kind of sound.
Another thing that sucks with not having FM amt go high enough is you can't do much with tri/sins as modulators like you can on nord/virus.



can you pls reupload?           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
http://www.activemeditationmusic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=703&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7
Scrambled Headz
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 8, 2010 20:24
Quote:

On 2010-02-03 18:14, demoniac wrote:
try this one :
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hwiryv
i made it on zebra 2

put low pass on 9 khz and high pass on 900 hz

make a fast compression and put a limiter also for getting that fat sound.
it's not the same but is close




heyt man im curious about this zebra...
can u re-up ?           : Panaiz *25 Motorbrain :
PSYPRUS MADNESS_OUT NOW !
machinima


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Posted : Sep 8, 2010 23:24
yea pls re-upload for us?:(
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