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Flac is really lossless?

Vermeee
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Posted : Dec 8, 2010 22:12:00
im in doubt from it ....

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Vermeee
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Posted : Dec 8, 2010 22:44
what bout the m4a from beatport ?           
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willsanquil
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Posted : Dec 9, 2010 07:06
seems pretty lossless to me            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : Dec 9, 2010 17:37
yes it is!! incase if u have doubts try usin audio checker it will confirm and u will be forced to trust!!
Vermeee
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Posted : Dec 9, 2010 23:48
kk thanks , i wondered if i should uncompressed the flac to WAV but thats not what it seems

what bout those m4a from beatport? its sad in beatport , when u buy an album and u want it in WAV they will exchange more 10 dollars for it.. ;/
but the m4a stays the same price...           
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : Dec 10, 2010 18:46
yes u should uncompress the flac to wave. but it would be difficult to figure out if the track has been originally rendered as 16bit or 24bit...
willsanquil
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Posted : Dec 10, 2010 20:41
if FLAC is truly lossless, then why the hassle of uncompressing to wav???? just makes it a bigger file no?            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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supergroover
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 11:30
You only need to uncompress if you want to burn to cd for example. Or maybe for programs like traktor. Don't know if they play flac files.           soundcloud.com/supergroover
Shiranui
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Posted : Dec 11, 2010 18:29
Traktor handles FLAC just fine in my experience. Older versions of traktor might not but the version I have handles it alright

I think the main issue might be that no one has written an optimized flac decompressor like they have written an optimized mp3 decompressor.

If disk space is no object then decompressing to wav in advance will save you CPU usage since your program will not have to first decompress the flac when it loads it.

The major downside to that, imo, is that FLAC supports tagging and wav has no tagging (so you cannot have artist name, track name, bpm key etc)
mudpeople
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Posted : Dec 12, 2010 00:50
I download a lot of free releases in FLAC, rip cds to FLAC, mix bounced (WAV i assume) files in Live. Not much significant difference in my ears
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : Dec 12, 2010 18:19
i guess flac reduces the size by 50-60% and is totally lossless data... but however i have not tried playing it in parties coz i dont think all cdjs support flacs other dan the cdj2000's. i mayb wrong here as well.. coz usually cdj 100's are being used all over and dey dont support flac files.


however pls read below!!

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Whats-difference-between-WAV-AIFF-AIF-MP3-FLAC-WMA-ALAC-M4A-etc
MorNinG MaGiC


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Posted : Jan 7, 2011 08:18
flac is completely lossless !!
Try using an application to decode the flac file to wav and burn it to cds and then play it I guess on cdj's !!
cheers!
Mike A
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Posted : Jan 7, 2011 15:15
My experiences with FLAC:

loseless (by definition - it's how the system works).

Latest version of Traktor (and the one before) works perfectly with FLAC. I've heard some people say that it doesn't, but I had no problems.

When I got wavs, I make them flac for the tagging and for conservation of space.

I played in parties with Traktor running flacs (99% of what I play is flac) and it was good. No problems.
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