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FL-Studio PsyTrance Example
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Khaos Sektor
Khaos Sektor
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 12:00
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On 2009-11-16 11:29, Wizack Twizack wrote:
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On 2009-11-16 11:23, exkor wrote:
why are you spending so much efforts on FL??
if you going to put so much energy into this why not put it into learning a normal software like Ableton Live or Cubase?
FL is just a toy, maybe it will take you some longer time but you will see why eventually, it's very limited...
I know Infected once put their older tracks source files for Schism Tracker on their website and you could download them and see everything they way they done it. I am sure you can still find them over the net. I believe that would cover everything you pretty much need to know about arrangement.
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Bullshit mate, its not 1999 anymore.
FL is way more developed then u might think it is. check for your self. Its not about that anymore, its about how you are using it.
Sure Ableton and cubase might be more proffesional daws but can pretty much do the same things in all of them, it's about taste rather then brand. 
Logic seems to be the most hardcore daw nowdays imo tho.
bOm..
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i agree!! i use FL and i like and is not limited ahahah
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wizanda
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 12:13
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 13:43
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On 2009-11-16 11:23, exkor wrote:
why are you spending so much efforts on FL??
if you going to put so much energy into this why not put it into learning a normal software like Ableton Live or Cubase?
FL is just a toy, maybe it will take you some longer time but you will see why eventually, it's very limited...
I know Infected once put their older tracks source files for Schism Tracker on their website and you could download them and see everything they way they done it. I am sure you can still find them over the net. I believe that would cover everything you pretty much need to know about arrangement.
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ohhh! please tell me where are the limits of flstudio?
tell me what you do in cubase/logic/ableton (exept of the live capabilities live has) that you cant do in fl?
or maybe is it the sound quality?
there are no toys in art just tools! http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic |
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 13:47
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On 2009-11-16 12:13, wizanda wrote:
All we need now is some more flp examples, showing how you write cool tunes with FL...  
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and you my man i know its frustrating in the beginning but even if we share some flps nothing good comes out of that.
take a track you like import into fl and try to see how the aragment goes how the track progresses and incorporate in ur music.
sharing flps its just another way to make us all sound the same!
better make mediocre music thats urs 100% and your experimentation brings something new to the table. than a super produced well structured track that sounds like it came from the psychedelic factory.. a clone.. same shit with a different name!!
take here..
http://rapidshare.com/files/307614024/fat_data_-atropa_tracks.rar
all made in fl only. http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic |
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wizanda
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 14:18
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Figured out how to already, yet on some finer points, its nice to see how other people make use of things... 
Reverb settings, delays, synth presets can all be used without compromising someones work, yet adding to the overall Psy feel. 
If you listen to the tracks already made, nothing i've ever made sounds like the style its meant to... 
So its not about cloning, yet advancing from a firm foundation in techniques. 
www.wizanda.com www.soundcloud.com/wizanda |
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 14:27
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exkor
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 18:52
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Bullshit mate, its not 1999 anymore.
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haha actually back in 1999 I loved it!!
we all fulled quite alot with it
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ohhh! please tell me where are the limits of flstudio?
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some stuff that annoys me in FL (compared to Ableton):
1. you can't automate the same way as in ableton
2. you can't wrap samples the same way without using special plugins
3. hate the FL gui compared to other daws
Well, Wizak is right to say that it's what you know to use bext, I agree with that. For me it is limiting after I worked with other DAWs, for others maybe not, so if what I said doesn't work with you then don't stick to it
And yea Logic is very cool, I loved the way you interconnect devices with the GUI tool, really really nice!
cheers!
http://soundcloud.com/exkor
http://www.myspace.com/exkor
http://www.facebook.com/exkor |
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exkor
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 18:53
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Bullshit mate, its not 1999 anymore.
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haha actually back in 1999 I loved it!!
we all fulled quite alot with it
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ohhh! please tell me where are the limits of flstudio?
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Last time I've checked with FL I really didn't like these things:
1. you can't assign automation the same way as in ableton, while in Ableton you can use both MIDI and PC Keyboard to assign midi events to absolutely any button/knob visible in the software GUI.
2. you can't wrap samples the same way without using special plugins.
3. hate the FL gui compared to other daws.
4. I found it crippling that you always had a limited number of cells (like 8 or 16 or so) for a pattern, then if you need less you need to go change the size in the menus, bah.
Well, Wizak is right to say that it's what you know to use best, and I totally agree with that. For me it is limiting after I worked with other DAWs, for others maybe not as much, so if what I said doesn't work with you then don't pay too much attention
And yea Logic is very cool, I loved the way you interconnect devices with the GUI tool, really really nice!
cheers!
http://soundcloud.com/exkor
http://www.myspace.com/exkor
http://www.facebook.com/exkor |
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carbonic
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 20:49
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just because FL has a fast to be familiar GUI it doesn't make it less professional. Indeed I'm a fan of 'keep it simple'!:) |
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 23:08
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On 2009-11-16 18:53, exkor wrote:
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Bullshit mate, its not 1999 anymore.
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haha actually back in 1999 I loved it!!
we all fulled quite alot with it
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ohhh! please tell me where are the limits of flstudio?
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Last time I've checked with FL I really didn't like these things:
1. you can't assign automation the same way as in ableton, while in Ableton you can use both MIDI and PC Keyboard to assign midi events to absolutely any button/knob visible in the software GUI.
2. you can't wrap samples the same way without using special plugins.
3. hate the FL gui compared to other daws.
4. I found it crippling that you always had a limited number of cells (like 8 or 16 or so) for a pattern, then if you need less you need to go change the size in the menus, bah.
Well, Wizak is right to say that it's what you know to use best, and I totally agree with that. For me it is limiting after I worked with other DAWs, for others maybe not as much, so if what I said doesn't work with you then don't pay too much attention
And yea Logic is very cool, I loved the way you interconnect devices with the GUI tool, really really nice!
cheers!
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sorry to say but it seems that is a user related issue with fl than the program as it is..
i can automate perfectly everything in fl..
wrap samples like what?
gui is a matter of taste.
you can have clips now as long as you want.. if i get what you meen!
http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic |
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exkor
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 23:28
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 23:53
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Koozer Mox
Koozer Mox
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 05:59
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On 2009-11-16 11:29, Wizack Twizack wrote:
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On 2009-11-16 11:23, exkor wrote:
why are you spending so much efforts on FL??
if you going to put so much energy into this why not put it into learning a normal software like Ableton Live or Cubase?
FL is just a toy, maybe it will take you some longer time but you will see why eventually, it's very limited...
I know Infected once put their older tracks source files for Schism Tracker on their website and you could download them and see everything they way they done it. I am sure you can still find them over the net. I believe that would cover everything you pretty much need to know about arrangement.
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Bullshit mate, its not 1999 anymore.
FL is way more developed then u might think it is. check for your self. Its not about that anymore, its about how you are using it.
Sure Ableton and cubase might be more proffesional daws but can pretty much do the same things in all of them, it's about taste rather then brand.
Logic seems to be the most hardcore daw nowdays imo tho.
bOm..
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Greetings Earthlings!
http://soundcloud.com/koozer-mox
www.myspace.com/koozermoxmusic
www.youtube.com/infectedkoozer
MSN: darker_22@hotmail.com |
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wizanda
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Posted : Jul 24, 2010 22:22
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Do any of you find you like to dismantle things, to really understand how they work? Anyone got any well put together Goa or Psy? 
Though made loads of progress composing lots of different styles since first posting this; still really needing something that would call phat, with just FL-plug-ins, to understand the overall composition principles in detail. 
www.wizanda.com www.soundcloud.com/wizanda |
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Midnight Sun
ProtoDrive
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Posted : Jul 25, 2010 03:55
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Hello bro, weŽll first of all I dont know why you want to imitate someones elses music, I mean, music comes from your mind and your feelings, you dont really need anything if you are a creator, just be creative and try extremly hard, if after that you still cant get it maybe its that you are not meant to be musician (sometimes happen). Every real artist makes his music his own way because he is expressing himself, get that very clear because if you dont you will never come out with anything good/original. So dont take this the bad way but do yourself a favor and stop looking for that many answers, just focus and remember that you are CREATING not IMITATING. Also what might help you is getting into some instrument ( I specially like piano ) and get some lessons so you can better understand how music works. Hope this helps you bro. 
ProtoDrive https://soundcloud.com/protodrive |
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