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FL Studio 7 - Why the bad rap?
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AcidForAll
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 02:36
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Fl is crazy fucking shiat for sures 
It is just killa for most stuff, but yeah for live live is killa better 
For doing producing the sexy and terror killa way FL STUDIO 7+ is way to go!!
And one more word - has nothing to do with the topic but SX3/4 is killa crap - in any case bad prog, there are really much better alternatives beside fls - i dunno why a lot of people believe it is gud????????
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astrotec
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 03:38
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1st
i was only saying that i finding it limiteding to use myself and thats only probably because i'm used to cubase.
if i started using FL first before i'd even tried cubase, i'd probably be saying the opposite.
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it doesn't matter what sequencer anyone uses to sequence the noises,
as longding the sounding is gooding
its just like a piece of paper
its not the sequencer that makes the tunes, its you.
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mk47
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 10:07
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On 2007-08-16 18:13, Bloodclot wrote:
I'd like to shift to FL 5 because of the famous CPU saving option. Just that I'd like to get back to my FL 6 projects every now and then. Btw, there's no real solution to that - is there?
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what are u talking about there ? explain cpu saving pls .. u talking about `smart disable` option there ? .. get fl 7 .. there u can use `smart disable` on synths as well as fx .
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le barde
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 15:58
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smart disable option is available in fl6, they just moved in the menus.
have a look in the sub menus of the general option menu.
then on each insert, you can also activate or deactivate the smart disable for some long delay or reverbs.
personaly, i couldn-t stop using FL, it-s such a powerfull sequencer/sampler.
but to hold projects, i prefer cubase and such audio mixing philosophy.
and the audio edition is quiet unconfortable to manage in FL i would say, compared to cubase.
/le tireur de ficelles/ album was 90% made with FL + hardware synths |
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Chemogen
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 17:10
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On 2007-08-16 22:17, bandarlog wrote:
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On 2007-08-16 17:21, Chemogen wrote:
I'd make a project specifically for playing live. I'd bounce down each of my tracks without the elements I'd play live, so I'd be left with bass, percussion and maybe some pads and other leads. Then I'd import each backing track into an FL project, line them up so they flow seamlessly into each other, than open the VSTs I'd need to trigger melody patterns and other parametres when they need to be played in the mix...I haven't tried it yet, but it sounds like it'd work.
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yeah well, exactly as I thought would be a great plan too but just try it. Maybe you'll cut it with 4 tracks but when you're talking 2 hours live acts of 20+ tracks each split up in 4-6 24bit wavs, FL doesn't do the job very well, I can assure you.
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Hmmm, I take Ableton would be able do that method better and it seems easy enough to achieve without learning the ins and outs of the software.
Could I just load up - like you say - two hours worth of backing for a set of songs, open the VST synths needed and trigger the MIDI copied from the FL project's leads? |
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bandarlog
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 17:40
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On 2007-08-17 17:10, Chemogen wrote:
Could I just load up - like you say - two hours worth of backing for a set of songs, open the VST synths needed and trigger the MIDI copied from the FL project's leads?
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yeah, I guess you could and I always think about doing that too but the downside is that this will be timeconsuming like hell because when you're using diferent lengths of midi patterns it will take ages to rearrange everything. + when you have put vst efx on your synths (which is in my case always the case, like 2-8 vst's with own settings) you have to tweak them right in order to make your synth sound exactly like in FL. Another thing that bugs me about this method is syncing. I know it's my own lazyness that's the problem but when you load several songs with different bpm into ableton, it's hard to mix them and to adjust the bpm according to the song. And you would definitely need the right bpm per song when you're using delays for example. Aargh... why is it always so complex!?
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Chemogen
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 22:48
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Shit, absolutely right about the global tempo, forgot all about that...Although with FL I guess I can automate the tempo, so as a new song is mixed in the tempo changes to accomodate it's leads, but done at the right time so its not too noticeable. There's only a 4 or so BPM difference between my songs. |
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bandarlog
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Posted : Aug 17, 2007 23:14
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On 2007-08-17 22:48, Chemogen wrote:
Shit, absolutely right about the global tempo, forgot all about that...Although with FL I guess I can automate the tempo, so as a new song is mixed in the tempo changes to accomodate it's leads, but done at the right time so its not too noticeable. There's only a 4 or so BPM difference between my songs.
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yeah with FL it's easy peasy but then you got your memory problem, see the puzzle? 
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
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Posted : Aug 18, 2007 11:02
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Well if the problem is using the software for live, than you better get a profi HD Rec. or a multitrack Studio like Roland MV 8000 and forget about the PC on stage.
The interface of the MV 8000 looks almost like Fl Studio so it won't be a problem for the FL users. This way there will be no more Cpu problems, no more midi latency, no more PC crushes during playback....and of course it looks and sounds more proffesional.
I use at home FL7 for creating the songs , and than i export the audio files and the drum loops, or samples using USb in my hardware Multitrack Studio. Here i can rearrange them, add effects, play live synths or riffs.
Mv 8000 has incorporated 128 chanells midi sequencer so i can add or create midi files and play them using the internal sound banks of MV 8000 or using external synths connected via midi.
I stopped using laptop for live sets 3 years ago, and i will never get back on it. There is no better feeling than the touch of a real Knob on the stage
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bandarlog
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Posted : Aug 18, 2007 16:32
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On 2007-08-18 11:02, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
Well if the problem is using the software for live, than you better get a profi HD Rec. or a multitrack Studio like Roland MV 8000 and forget about the PC on stage.
The interface of the MV 8000 looks almost like Fl Studio so it won't be a problem for the FL users. This way there will be no more Cpu problems, no more midi latency, no more PC crushes during playback....and of course it looks and sounds more proffesional.
I use at home FL7 for creating the songs , and than i export the audio files and the drum loops, or samples using USb in my hardware Multitrack Studio. Here i can rearrange them, add effects, play live synths or riffs.
Mv 8000 has incorporated 128 chanells midi sequencer so i can add or create midi files and play them using the internal sound banks of MV 8000 or using external synths connected via midi.
I stopped using laptop for live sets 3 years ago, and i will never get back on it. There is no better feeling than the touch of a real Knob on the stage
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yeah, sounds neat and all but it costs >2000€...
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The_Guardians_Of_Truth
Atma
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Posted : Aug 19, 2007 10:52
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On 2007-08-18 16:32, bandarlog wrote:
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On 2007-08-18 11:02, The_Guardians_Of_Truth wrote:
Well if the problem is using the software for live, than you better get a profi HD Rec. or a multitrack Studio like Roland MV 8000 and forget about the PC on stage.
The interface of the MV 8000 looks almost like Fl Studio so it won't be a problem for the FL users. This way there will be no more Cpu problems, no more midi latency, no more PC crushes during playback....and of course it looks and sounds more proffesional.
I use at home FL7 for creating the songs , and than i export the audio files and the drum loops, or samples using USb in my hardware Multitrack Studio. Here i can rearrange them, add effects, play live synths or riffs.
Mv 8000 has incorporated 128 chanells midi sequencer so i can add or create midi files and play them using the internal sound banks of MV 8000 or using external synths connected via midi.
I stopped using laptop for live sets 3 years ago, and i will never get back on it. There is no better feeling than the touch of a real Knob on the stage
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yeah, sounds neat and all but it costs >2000€...
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true...but making music ask sacrifices. If you wanna do it Pro,than you have to invest some money. And beside, 200O Euro is not very much in comparation with the price of other equipments. An expensive synth can go more than 2000 euro.
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Aug 20, 2007 13:34
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On 2007-08-17 10:07, mk47 wrote:
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On 2007-08-16 18:13, Bloodclot wrote:
I'd like to shift to FL 5 because of the famous CPU saving option. Just that I'd like to get back to my FL 6 projects every now and then. Btw, there's no real solution to that - is there?
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what are u talking about there ? explain cpu saving pls .. u talking about `smart disable` option there ? .. get fl 7 .. there u can use `smart disable` on synths as well as fx .
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I'm not to sure myself. I haven't really explored FL5 before. I've only heard from friends that when you right click on the sequencer there is a small option which reduces the CPU intake from FL. Any idea if it's the same one? In FL6 the smart disable is moved to Tools>Macros>Switch smart disable for all effects.
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mk47
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Posted : Aug 20, 2007 15:59
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just click the `plug` icon .. top left in the wrapper under `browsed parameters` is the `smart disable` option .. i think what it does is .. switch off after 4 seconds of inactivity any vsti /fx , wich saves you cpu .. dont use on reverb with longer duration tails
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Aug 20, 2007 20:13
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Thank you. Will try that out.
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Chambao
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Posted : Aug 23, 2007 07:33
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i been using FL since the begining (when i just started making music, fl4 era) and i just love it.
the workflow is great, plus they really help you u nderstand everything if you're a beginner.
the only automation problem i found so far is for NI, all other vst's gets automated easily.
and also, i dunno but in FL7 wave editing is pretty easy and intuitive, its not different from cubase.
and it doesnt matter at all which sequencer you use, as long as you know how to use it, and make good music with it.
so if you're using FL and having fun with it + making good quality music, stick with it, dont change because of general opinion.
Good luck to everyone
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