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Fist track, need some help!

FreakBugS


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Posted : Sep 20, 2007 06:20
Hi Guys!

Ive been reading this forum some months ago... really good content and members...

I decided to play around with e-music creation... just using software synths and other stuffs.

Some weeks working with a track and got this: http://www.kehl.ind.br/balla/FreakBugS_-_Voice_Bug.mp3 (128kbps just to preview)

ps: I new in this world, I dont have any knowledge with music creation... I dont have any good monitors... just playing with live and some good VSTs.

Could u guys help me with EQ, some other good drum VST (im using now CronoX for hihats, cymbals, etc)... ??

I dont know how to EQ this track... and, yes, I know, there arent nothing on freq higher than 5k...

I hope I get some help...

=) cya
psyaudionamics
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 20, 2007 14:29
wassup freakbugs... for drums i suggest u get samples...
and just drop em in simpler.... but if u looken for an vst u might wanna chek out stylus rmx... and for kicks i like Bazzism hehe really cheap but cool as hell.. plus u can chek some of the linn plugs i forgot the name right now...
feedback on track not bad at all for ur first track keep up the good work u had there some melody that reminded me of the eighty's hehe

as far eq is concern its all up to u really what ever u want u sound to be and depending on the other instruments since by now u should know that if u change one track u might have to change others just play around with it and try the mix in as many different speakers and settings as u can...

also chek ur mix in mono...
hope my words helped out holla
peace, Deyan
minim


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Posted : Sep 20, 2007 16:24
I couldn't get the mp3 to load. My ISP has been flakey all day so I'll attempt at it again later. Anyhow, here are two links to drums kits post on the Nano Records site:

http://www.nanorecords.co.uk/uploaded_files/sample-packs/kit1.zip

http://www.nanorecords.co.uk/uploaded_files/sample-packs/kit2.zip

Should be decent enough to get you started in the right direction. They are just samples packs and not VST. Like psyaudionamics said, just place them in simpler.

For more drum sounds yo can try digging through:

Freesound Project
http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/



Now that I think of it:

Sonic Charge ”Tonic
http://www.soniccharge.com/products           http://www.granularmatter.com

http://www.myspace.com/goniobombukes
http://www.myspace.com/the233project

http://www.233project.net/
http://www.elektroworx.com
FreakBugS


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Posted : Sep 20, 2007 17:04
Deyan,

sure IŽll follow your words =)

tkz Minim too, Ill check that samples and drop it at simpler..

lets see what Ill get...

tkz guys, I was lost at this point... keep working on the track...

cya =)

soulfood
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Posted : Sep 20, 2007 19:00
Best advice for beginners... Import a finished track into your sequencer... any old track, preferably one in a similar style you wish to make.

Then put a paramtric EQ on the master channel and start fiddling around just to get farmiliar with where the different frequency ranges are and what they sound like.

Just cut or boost a frequency and sweep it up and down the mix.

That's training your ear lesson 1

Once you are farmiliar with where everything is you'll be much more confident about what to do and when you have to do it.

EQ is number one important, especially when it comes to bass.


Don't get to eager to rush out and get all the tools to quickly also. So many beginners rush into getting all the kit thinking it's going to be their saviour. You'd be surprised of the results you can get out of all the most minimal equipment once you know how. Collecting software is just putting off the whole fun part where you really get stuck in.

All you need is your mind... and just a little something to smear it onto

Judging by the track... you're off to a better start than most!
Pinkadelic @ ciledakniP
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 21, 2007 03:25
hello.
well first off, i dont see why you are cutting all frequencies above 5khz. some air can be quite good for the percussions, even for a buildup pad or something.

for drums i use samples, and i use fruity's sampler to fiddle around with them.
and i think that one of the most important things u should know about EQ'ing is about getting the bass frequencies right.
too much and u get the sub taking over the song, too little and you would get a click of a kick.
just play around with it, check out all of the options, and try stuff out for yourself.
thats the best way of learning, tweaking ALL knobs, all sliders, all everything, tweak everything that isnt digitally nailed to the ground           -Soultech/Stampgevaar Records, Parampara Recs

-MSN: marcio_zimerman9@hotmail.com

-myspace: http://www.myspace.com/pinkadelica
psyaudionamics
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  546
Posted : Sep 21, 2007 13:31
oh just remembered when ur up to the challenge and
want to really get ur drums and percussion to next level jump on native instruments BAttery that program is just insane u wont regrett it take my word for it

download the manual in they're website and inform urself more u will be thankful later hehe
peace man and good luck in ur journey of music production ur actually at the best stage
newbie everything is magical at fers hehe
but like everyone else says have fun and experiment

peace, Deyan
FreakBugS


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Posted : Sep 21, 2007 17:41
soulfood, first I need some good monitors... my ones are getting old... but I will follow your advice... thanks =)

Marcio! sounds like a brazilian name! hehe. I checked your myspace... good work, uhn?

Deyan, I will check it... the drums in CronoX dont pass 5khz.... or Im very newbie to tweak them... hehe... thanks for your words...



abraham316


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Posts :  121
Posted : Sep 25, 2007 01:48
nice track and bassline sound
i have to work with hihats too
i just know the basic pattern of:

K---K---K---K---
C C C C
OoooOoooOoooOooo

Where the O is the 100% velocity and the others o are 70% velocity, K is the kick and C the closed hihat..
i know there are many threads about this but i cant understand it can someone give me a little help with a graphic like this or other about other patterns ? hehe maybe its a little offtopic but it is about hihats...
          http://www.soundcloud.com/yadah
http://www.soundcloud.com/yadah
FreakBugS


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Posted : Sep 26, 2007 06:40
hi guys.. some news

got the samples... changed the CronoX drums for that drum kit... sounds mutch better now... EQed in Sound Forge...

changed the bassline... now with a tb303 emulator... abl2... complicated for me, but I think I can get it working good spending some weeks on it...

abraham... next step I will tweak my hihats... I need to learn more about it.. take my messenger at my profile.. lets talk about this.. =)

oh.. here is the preview: http://www.kehl.ind.br/balla/FreakBugS_-_Voice_Bug_(loop).mp3

thanks a lot guys... learning every day...
abraham316


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Posts :  121
Posted : Sep 26, 2007 08:01
Sounds nice bro =) i like the drums, the melody and all, you have a really good sound, really like a lot your music bro, i wrote you a message by email but the dir was not correct so if you can add me it will be very good!
You have made a good work with the drums, snare, hihats and bassline!
Peace!!
          http://www.soundcloud.com/yadah
http://www.soundcloud.com/yadah
FreakBugS


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Posted : Oct 3, 2007 17:49
hello Im back again =)

working on a new bassline, some new effects... and trying other tricks..

please feed back =)

http://www.kehl.ind.br/balla/fb-bassline.mp3

csid


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Posts :  26
Posted : Oct 4, 2007 03:29
Quote:

On 2007-10-03 17:49, FreakBugS wrote:

http://www.kehl.ind.br/balla/fb-bassline.mp3




sounding good!
FreakBugS


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Posts :  33
Posted : Oct 7, 2007 23:21
hi guys...

news news news... hehe

first, thanks all people that helped me with tips and other stuffs...

here is something new, I guess better than previous tracks that I posted here.

please feed back.

http://www.kehl.ind.br/balla/fb-feeling.mp3
Pinkadelic @ ciledakniP
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posts :  125
Posted : Oct 8, 2007 02:05
Feeling is a nice track.
its a bit repetitive though, but its very nice!
i would just boost a bit the bass frequencies, i can hardly feel them.
you might wanna use different fx's instead of repeating the HP filter over and over (though it sounds good, but overusing it can make it go Blah)
anywayz, i liked it, but you can try to add a bit more variation instead of repeating the same things over and over.           -Soultech/Stampgevaar Records, Parampara Recs

-MSN: marcio_zimerman9@hotmail.com

-myspace: http://www.myspace.com/pinkadelica
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