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first psytrance track (145 bpm)

musAphira
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Posted : Aug 21, 2010 21:24:11
hi,

so after 1.5 years learning by doing totally from scratch i "finished" my first (and hopefully kind of) old-school (full-on?) track. ... let me know what do you think it is

it was a f**ing hard way up to here and i'm not absolutely satisfied with the result and now im stuck with loopitis and don't want to change any more elementary ... so anyway ... thats my current capability/status.

so comments/critics (mix/song structure ...) are very welcome!
please let me know what you think!

here it is :



greetz
m

MeditationProfonde
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Posted : Aug 21, 2010 23:04
Very good dude. I would just say that the leads seem too much in the back compared to the bass.           http://www.myspace.com/psyrit
willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 21, 2010 23:50
Mix sounds good, however it seems like everything is kind of flat in the stereo field, like everythings sitting on your face pretty much from the getgo and doesn't stop until the end

also the bass at 4:52 is kind of dirty, not in a pleasing way to my ears- dunno if thats what you're going for

I think playing with some panning on your elements would do a lot for the mix

liked it! cheers, keep going
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Bosque Sub Zinho
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Posted : Aug 22, 2010 00:40
Fantastic dude..!! Some kind mix of full on and goa.. I love the old school vibes.. Mastering is very good.. I make good sound psy 4 months.. Your one and half year project has results.. Keep it up and search for an label.. ) Cheers Isra-Soldier..!!
musAphira
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Posted : Aug 22, 2010 16:19
thx so far!

@willsanquil : yepp! panning! thats something i really forgot ... too much loopitis the last 2 days

will now explore panning

... and spend more time in the workshop section. really nice stuff here btw !!!
musAphira
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Posted : Aug 22, 2010 17:28
just uploaded again. old link/track seems to be broken somehow ???!! whatever ...




musAphira
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Posted : Aug 22, 2010 18:16
f***ing soundcloud crashed a couple of uploads now and some proxy server around here seems not to refresh the flash link sources

so finally here's a valid soundcloud embedd




greetz
m
alien_radio
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Posted : Aug 22, 2010 20:06
Thats some serious learning u have done i guess. Nice stuff bro. Wicked sounds n melos. But I gotta second willsanquil's opinion about the bass at 4.52.           The pause is as important as the note - Truman Fisher

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knocz
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Posted : Aug 27, 2010 04:32
You should work more and learn on the way, creating more tunes.

My advice: Think about the drum percussion.
-In an acoustic drum each instrument has it's own locations, having (relatively to the drummer) a left-right field, a depth and a height. you can achieve all thins with pan, volume, filtering, etc.

-Also all the instruments are tuned to fit each other, and are played in the same room. With electronic music it's easy to make a drum loop with sounds from completely different sets, played by different drummers, recorded in different rooms with different equipment, etc. So you can try to make it fit together in several ways, for example, put all the drums (except kick) into a reverb, and use the mix until the effects is just slightly audible.

-Psytrance is composed by more rhythms than melodies, and your percussion is doing only one rhythm throughout the whole track. Try playing the drum track one instrument at a time and quantize some of your notes, and overdubbing the other instruments. Do this a couple of times during a day or two and you will come up with many variations.

-Create a couple a variations of each pattern, glitching out each individual instrument, adding some delays or reverbs occasionally, or a long phaser or flanger over the high hats, reverse snares or crashes, etc.

-You can also think of an acoustic drumkit and all its instruments. Usually the have several toms, crashes and etc, and often add other "weird" sounds like metallic or wooden thingies to hit


I also have a personal tasty for moving basslines, and your's just stays in one spot.. I'd take the scale you are using and make a bass progression out of it.

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vipal
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Posted : Aug 27, 2010 18:49
amazing for first track! just keep m coming, make another with little longer break if you like. and yes some panning
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ProtoDrive

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Posted : Aug 27, 2010 19:39
Yeah for a first track its excelent!! If you really started this way you have a huge potential so good luck with your project!! Also I do agree with the issues they tell you before so work on them           ProtoDrive https://soundcloud.com/protodrive
elastic_plastic
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Posted : Aug 29, 2010 14:23
i really like your sound.... and yest bass at 4:52 is def. dirty... but its cool if thts the sound u r lookin for...

overall ur production is quiet professional m8!!

i will watch out for ur tunes always
D_Access
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Posted : Aug 30, 2010 03:42
nice one, imo awesome for the first track-)
naretir
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Posted : Aug 30, 2010 18:34
nice baby           Ohh yeah. fiddle and boom. Ableton addict :)
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musAphira
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Posted : Aug 31, 2010 13:01
thanks for the critics/comments!

i'll work on the topics more intensive for future tracks. currently i'm working on some dark stuff. i guess there's a bit more room for drums e.g.




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