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CLAW
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Posted : Feb 17, 2008 15:54:09
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I know that probably same question has been asked, or several opinions have been mentioned in the past...
I made a small search, found some feedbacks but Im asking again and i want straight answers...
USB or Firewire...??
Is there much difference?
If not then either one can do the job yes?
Reason for buying is just for live... Consider that there is already a good one for studio.
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MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 17, 2008 16:01
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I would say firewire, since the transfer rate is much higher than with usb...
I know some people might say now that usb2.0 is faster than fw400, but the transfer rate of usb2.0 is just a maximum afaik, that wont be reached by far... 
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knocz
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Posted : Feb 17, 2008 17:27
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Soon USB will overcome FireWire.. Because you can get faster speeds in serial than parallel.
I have a Presonus Firebox, and I currently use my 4 pin firewire on my notebook for it. And I can say it's really unstable: just a slight touch on the firewire cable and my sound card disconnects. I'm going to get a 6 pin firewire PCIe card, because the 4 pint is too unstable for playing live.
USB has a better connector, but are more needed. You might find yourself with a lack of USB ports..
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MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 17, 2008 17:59
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its so so, I bet a lot of people will say that parallel transfers are defenately better for audio purposes than serial...especially when doing a REAL livewhere many tracks run at the same time, not just 1 track mixed into another
about 4pin fw, I have no idea...I never got that actually 
but in my opinion its more about the manufacturer than about the connector...f.e. I got an usb hd with a bad connector, and it disconnects also sometimes...need to get a new case for the hd soon
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orange
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Posted : Feb 17, 2008 19:25
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Feb 17, 2008 20:48
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Just to mention: most of pc stores told me that I would need to do some tests to know if I my laptop handle well with the PCMCIA adaptor... Some say that I can have considerable loses on pc performance(is that right?). And when I discovered that 6pin PCMCIA does not provide power supply(only better jack), I just quit this adaptor, and be carefull with the cable(I´ve never had problems during live regarding accidently disconecting the cable).
And a question: besides the rate, what´s difference between USB and FW??? I´ve only used my sc with FW connection, but I think USB seems easier to install and handle with. Maybe it´s cause my sc is M-Audio...
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orange
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Posted : Feb 17, 2008 20:55
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alfalfa
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Posted : Feb 18, 2008 00:07
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also depends on your laptop fw chipset.
find out what fw chipset you got and if its anything other than texas instruments i'd go usb 2. if it is texas then i'd go fw. i've read about LOTS of problems with fw audio interfaces on cheaper laptops.
having said that my non texas intsruments laptop has been fine with both fw interfaces ive tried and its a dell, which have a particularaly bad reputation when it comes to fw audio. guess i just got lucky. |
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CLAW
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Posted : Feb 18, 2008 00:20
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Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 18, 2008 02:26
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First of all transfer speed doesn't matter unless you planning to use many channels of 24/192 audio or something.
For a few channels of 24/44.1 that is a non-issue.
The problem has been with USB that it has not been to reliable and I have come across countless devices that just don't work properly because they use an USB connection, but that situation has approved now.
Using a 4-pin FW live is asking for trouble.
They are unreliable by design and they will work ok for a while until one day it's ehough with slightly touching the cable to make your setup crash.
If you are going to use FW make sure you weither have a laptop with 6-pin or an adapter that works with your SC.
I had a PCMCIA adapter for an M-Audio Ozonic, and that worked fine.
So FW can be more trouble that it's worth nowadays, but I would not discount it and choose my SC based on what connection it uses primarily.
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Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Feb 18, 2008 12:15
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Spindrift
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Posted : Feb 18, 2008 13:16
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On 2008-02-18 12:15, Alex - Aural Invasion wrote:
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On 2008-02-18 02:26, Spindrift wrote:
I had a PCMCIA adapter for an M-Audio Ozonic, and that worked fine.
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was it something like this u used? im very nervous about the unstable 4 pin port on my laptop, and want to get rid of this problem, not taking any chances anymore 
http://www.amazon.com/Card-PCMCIA-Firewire-Port-Cable/dp/B00008AB53
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Yes, the thing is that some soundcards can be a bit fuzzy with the chipset the adapter is using.
It's recommended to get a FW400 with TI chipset, but I got a TI FW800 and that was working fine with the Ozonic as I said.
I'm using a Indigo now so actually I don't need the one I have, so if you are interested in having it I could sell it cheaply.
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CLAW
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Posted : Feb 18, 2008 13:22
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Indigo is what I have right now, and because my laptop came with the new 'express' card slot which is smaller, i had to get an adapter to make them fit, with negative results.
Is not working, tried several times, with new drivers and in different laptops as well with no success...
I have decided to sell my indigo and get something new, thats why Im asking about USB or FW...
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Andreh
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Posted : Feb 18, 2008 14:35
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only one thing i would like to tell u guys is, maybe im very wrong, but usb sound cards are working with the USB 2.0?
Coz i´ve notice at home using a edirol UA-25, this sound card for example, work in USB 1.0, whatever if im using a 2.0 port at my computer, it goes at 1.0 speed. Honnestly i´ve enjoyed that, coz i can use a small hub to multiply my usb ports and use the sound card on it without loose some performance.
U guys know about sound card that work with usb 2.0? I´ve owned 3 cards until today, and all of then work @usb1.0. M-Audio Fast Track, Sound Card from M-Audio Ozone and now the Edirol UA-25. 
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Posted : Feb 18, 2008 14:48
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be aware that if you use any other USB devices, your ports may be sharing bandwidth because of hubs. i can only run my soundcard reliably on one USB port on my laptop.
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