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filtering out those heavy bassy subs

Sonica
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Posted : Dec 23, 2008 22:34:42
could i ask how to filter out all those nasty subs out of my bassline, i hear track that the sub iz perfect, a hpf at 40hz dose not do the trick.

plze help
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cr1st0
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Posted : Dec 23, 2008 22:37
Hello,

What is a sub bass is like having too bass's and the one with the lower frequency's is the sub bass ?
Sonica
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Posted : Dec 23, 2008 22:38
does the fundamentle freqency have anything to do with it? do i boost or cut the fundamentle freqency? say my bass line is on c# do i cut that freq with notch fltr?
Sonica
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Posted : Dec 23, 2008 22:38
yep between 40hz-100 how to control that perfectly
PoM
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Posted : Dec 23, 2008 23:59
whatever works lol
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Sonica
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 01:15
amp will only amplifi those sub basses i want them subtile. will loshelves do the job with the seperation?
Sonica
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 01:15
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On 2008-12-23 23:59, PoM wrote:
whatever works lol


wuz so funny?
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I think he means whatever works for your specific situation. I would have to hear it on order to tell you whatI would do with it...           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 03:08
hipass up to 70hz with boost of higher freqs is acceptable.. depend how it sounds in the mix , more then in solo.. tho for me usualy its quite the same (when its good in the mix its usualy good in solo too) exept the click that i dont like in solo but in the mix it stand out etc.
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Sonica
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 04:07
hipass to 70hz? there would be no bass left no?
reversus
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 04:20
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On 2008-12-24 03:08, Elad wrote:
hipass up to 70hz with boost of higher freqs is acceptable.. depend how it sounds in the mix , more then in solo.. tho for me usualy its quite the same (when its good in the mix its usualy good in solo too) exept the click that i dont like in solo but in the mix it stand out etc.


and after that you can use Rbass to give that boost of bass or no?
Kane
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 06:53
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On 2008-12-24 04:07, Sonica wrote:
hipass to 70hz? there would be no bass left no?



No, but it would be very resonant in most cases and sound terrible on a PA system. (imo)           You believe in the users?
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soulfood
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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 06:57
Use EQ.

Yeah I know what you're thinking. Good one sir.Haha. You are a comedian good sir BS-a-lot... that I do not think.

But yeah that's your answer.

I'd leave total cuts of lower frequencies to a mastering engineer. All you have to do is EQ, listen to the track on many systems and then re-EQ. After a while you'll realize how much bass their should be. It'sall about experience and learning.

Bass should have bass in it. That's thebottom line.

Maybe your subs arent the problem. Maybe your high frequencies are too loud. Maybe you were listening to the wrong division of your bass when you were edging that volume slider up.

Ah shit I'm answering questions with questions. I hate that.

Fact is some synths produce too much subby goodeness, some don't.

Generally if I have to cut higher than 35hz to get a pleasing result it's because the programming of the synth wasn't that good. Maybe the filter ADSR was too quick. Maybe you need some compression to keep that tail down, rather than eliminating the bass of the attack as well.

I wish it was simple but it aint.

I'd say don't use Rbass unless you know what it's going to do. It's not a magic bean, but just a tool some people use.

I try to keep to one EQ and one compressor, after that it's back to the original source.

Don't listen to it for too long either, because gradual changes over time can really warp your perception of what you are listening to.

My thing I had issues with a couple of years back was immense cuts at 350hz which could have been resolved by a small cut at 100.

Unless Erez is your bestest mate your in it alone. You have to experiment, then go away, comeback and then really give it a good listen.

If you high pass above 50hz you're a coward!!!

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Posted : Dec 24, 2008 09:19
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On 2008-12-24 04:07, Sonica wrote:
hipass to 70hz? there would be no bass left no?


Depends on how steep the slope is, but 70Hz is too high.
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