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Psytracked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 03:41
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On 2008-06-05 03:39, Speakafreaka wrote:
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On 2008-06-05 03:34, Psytracked wrote:
I am not saying don't EQ, I am talking about the final trimming of the bottom end which has become a fad of recent....this is the pre-mastering engineers job.
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You are changing the topic, this was always about individual sources.
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lol...I assure I am not...This is all about mans quest for a fat kick and the pitfalls or internet myths.
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 03:45
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Psytracked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 03:47
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Why put a question mark after "you are talking about the final mix" only to follow it by I think not.........So i don't agree with you......calm down.
If anyone is going to explain what I meant it will be me
OK?
peace be with you 
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Psytracked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 03:51
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Sneaky little edit there..lol
anyways.....think about the whole picture here.......a song with a fat kick in it. This will encompass individual sources......a final mix.....pre-mastering.......and mastering in some cases.......so I can't see why you would suggest that I was changing the topic.
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 03:52
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Psytracked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 03:53
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 13:26
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On 2008-06-05 00:03, Speakafreaka wrote:
nah, don't agree at all.
How can you balance the uppers if the bass isn't right?
How can you balance the bass and the kick against each other?
Besides which, master engineers job should spit and polish, not remidial work
Certainly, the mastering engineer won't think twice about applying it to your mix if you don't. But it makes a lot more sense for you to do it as you can apply it to individual parts.
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hmmm but it s more about synthesis programing /making the kick , you shouldnt need to use use eq for that or just a little ... if you have lot of low end something is wrong in the source at first and you should cure the probs their if it s possible imo , if you dont need hp filter at all it ll always sound better than if you need one to me . |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 14:39
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Used to say exactly the same thing...
No matter how well you program a sound, things can get in, like sound below the fundamental of the waveform due to synth issues, filter snap etc.
Yes, things would sound better if no EQ was neccesary, unfortunately, it always is.
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Psytracked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 16:29
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 17:51
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Psytracked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 17:54
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an example so anyone reading the forum can get a ballpark?.......I am talking about your kick bass here......sorry I didn't make that clear in the post.
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 17:57
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I've given you ballpark Kick just above bass instrument fundamental, bass just below instrument fundamental.
Slope - well, thats really a very approximate definition of a filter, so I won't give that.
Wherever it sounds good in those hz regions.
If you don't know where it sounds good, then you shouldn't be doing it.
As I've already explained, for utterly technical reasons, trying to define cutoff point in this way is pointless, as source material is always different, and every EQ sounds different too.
...assuming we are still talking about the HP issue. I EQ all other bits and pieces too with the kick and the bass...
but again, it totally depends on the EQ and source material - for example, Kicks which sweep down very quickly through freqs often need very different EQ to ones that seep down slowly.
It just isn't possible to say, 'Oh, EQ this freq, this freq and this freq and your kicks will sound super phat'. .
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Psytracked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 18:26
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 18:28
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google for a midi to hz chart, or better yet, use a spectrum analyzer to establish this information (ensure that you switch the windowing size of the analyzer right up) .
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Psytracked
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Posted : Jun 5, 2008 18:35
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lol....... I have them both.......You are the one giving advice on this I want an example from you..... I got a great chart up on my wall which came with a book I have: Mastering Audio by Bob Katz.
Please Speakafreaka give us an example so we can understand you better.
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