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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 01:40
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On 2009-11-18 01:24, TAS wrote:
...was on my way to the bed but guess I have to be up for another 2h25min then
Thanks for posting... didn't know this one was coming
Hehe!
Maybe look a little now and more tomorrow!
cheers! sleep well
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 04:31
I had to watch the whole thing Was very interesting and they took up many good points. Economy, Global Warming, Television Manipulation and so on...
Found some good samples in this one also so thank you very much again for posting it!
Btw, he mentioned a part 2 in the end of the documentary, do you know where to find it? I searched but couldn't find it ..or maybe it's not released yet?
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 04:50
oh cool. I love Alex Jones, really interesting stuff about conspiracy and shit. can't wait to watch this
still waiting for Zeitgeist 3
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 10:54
sick & frightening documentary
thanx
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 12:25
shit, these films makes you feel like a rat running in a wheel, in their diy cages
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 09:36
YAY! MORE CONSPIRACY BS.
Now post it again in the movies section, and then in the spirituality section, and then in the trance section. It's just wonderful to know how many people believe this paranoid crap.
http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 03:08
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YAY! MORE CONSPIRACY BS.
Now post it again in the movies section, and then in the spirituality section, and then in the trance section. It's just wonderful to know how many people believe this paranoid crap.
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Posted : Nov 22, 2009 10:44
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On 2009-11-19 09:36, Kaz wrote:
YAY! MORE CONSPIRACY BS.
Now post it again in the movies section, and then in the spirituality section, and then in the trance section. It's just wonderful to know how many people believe this paranoid crap.
..and it's so wonderful to see sheeple trying to shout out that everything is "ok" in our world!
I never said everything was ok. I believe in the banality of evil, as it is much more plausible than what I saw in this film, or as a matter of fact, any conspiracy film. The greatest terrors in the history of mankind were not done by sociopaths and evil men, but by regular people just doing their job and going about their life. The connections in the film (at least the bits I saw) are at best very thin stuff, and usually implausible in relation to much simpler "banality of evil" type explanations. I viewed this with detached and critical thinking, removing emotional bias, and came to the conclusion that this is an opinion piece that uses unfounded assumptions in as matter-of-fact ways as possible in order to hide the weakness of the arguments... In short, the creator was at best seeing things as he wanted to see rather than forcing scrutiny on his own opinions (an "I AM RIGHT, AND TO PROVE IT, HERE IS THIS!!!" attitude), at worst, he's preying of fear and insecurities to give more credence to himself in the exact same way extremist preachers do.
Instead of elaborating on this, I gave a much more concise reply in order to circumvent a much more elaborate paragraph than the above, since people who believe this stuff will not be convinced no matter what evidence or rational arguments they are confronted with, because it's easier to deny the other side of an argument than to actually think "what if they are right?". Something I did before replying. Can you say the same?
But, for your enjoyment, here is the creator of the film in his standard behavior:
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Posted : Nov 22, 2009 14:56
I think Alex Jones is "to much" many times.. He has alot of views that I don't agree with at all.. for example, he is christian, I'm not So I don't take in everything he says as an fact. I always try to take in things from different points of view and then tries to make up "my own reality" based on the information I have gathered. To many people talks BS out there... and even myself sometimes have the wrong idea, but that's the thing with us humans... something that's the absolute truth now can be false tomorrow. One example is that the world was flat a couple of hundreds years ago... if you thought anything different you where insane...
anyway... as I wrote, I thought they took up many good points in this. Didn't say I believed in every single word... during the X years I have watched his doucumentaries, and he has both been right and wrong... so I keep watching coz I think it's interesting You don't just get the regular talk like on the news where people are to afraid or to controlled about what to say or not.
But what I don't understand is why you shouted out like you did? You seemed very pissed in the first post you made? I replied and was joking with you dude.. that's why I used a in the end of my sentance =)
Hmm... I don't think you thought anything before you replied. You just shouted out that this was CONSPIRACY BS and imo mock'ed the guy for posting this.
Is this the way to treat your fellow man? Instead you should brought up some points in this documentary that you didn't agree on and then discussed it with whoever wanted to reply.
...funny videos you posted btw... I get very easily mad also so that's why I have choosed the artist name as I have. I would probably be shouting as him also.. altho I'm trying to control my anger and not be like that hahaha
..anyway.. He's doing that coz he thinks people will listen more or get afraid and therefor listen to what he says. I don't go for that and rather listen to when people talks in a more calm way. But when that's not working people seems to take an more agressive method to get their voice heard...
Hope you got my point in this msg.. my english are not the best but I'm trying as good as I can!
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Posted : Nov 22, 2009 19:54
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On 2009-11-22 10:44, Kaz wrote:
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On 2009-11-20 03:08, TAS wrote:
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On 2009-11-19 09:36, Kaz wrote:
YAY! MORE CONSPIRACY BS.
Now post it again in the movies section, and then in the spirituality section, and then in the trance section. It's just wonderful to know how many people believe this paranoid crap.
..and it's so wonderful to see sheeple trying to shout out that everything is "ok" in our world!
I never said everything was ok. I believe in the banality of evil, as it is much more plausible than what I saw in this film, or as a matter of fact, any conspiracy film. The greatest terrors in the history of mankind were not done by sociopaths and evil men, but by regular people just doing their job and going about their life. The connections in the film (at least the bits I saw) are at best very thin stuff, and usually implausible in relation to much simpler "banality of evil" type explanations. I viewed this with detached and critical thinking, removing emotional bias, and came to the conclusion that this is an opinion piece that uses unfounded assumptions in as matter-of-fact ways as possible in order to hide the weakness of the arguments... In short, the creator was at best seeing things as he wanted to see rather than forcing scrutiny on his own opinions (an "I AM RIGHT, AND TO PROVE IT, HERE IS THIS!!!" attitude), at worst, he's preying of fear and insecurities to give more credence to himself in the exact same way extremist preachers do.
Instead of elaborating on this, I gave a much more concise reply in order to circumvent a much more elaborate paragraph than the above, since people who believe this stuff will not be convinced no matter what evidence or rational arguments they are confronted with, because it's easier to deny the other side of an argument than to actually think "what if they are right?". Something I did before replying. Can you say the same?
But, for your enjoyment, here is the creator of the film in his standard behavior:
.... and for a more serious matter:
Wow, what a douche bag this Alex Jones fella.
Everyone in the world is doing something without me
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Posted : Nov 23, 2009 05:31
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Posted : Nov 23, 2009 11:57
funny videos kaz, but nothing funny about whats going on with the world today.
In this movie alex decide to step out and let pro's to have their say:
* The financial system, and especially the last crisis.
* Globalization.
* Obama- which seems more and more the new form of tyrant- the celebrity kind.
* The gr8 global warming hoax, and the inevitable carbon tax which we will have to bear a couple of years from now.
* Civilian army and civilian informers.
its a bit hard to believe with this stuff, but they make some pretty good arguments. America for sure has been taken over and controlled by major corporations, and you see this whereever you go (in israel also).
people should realize that there is danger, and we are at the brink of a new era, and no one will be able to hold it back once its started.
forget alex jones, he is not the voice, nor claims to be- he is a pissed off civilian which like many others in the usa believe that his beloved country was hijacked by cheap propaganda. He is not the only one, and he is only one man in the anti-globalization movements running around from one g5 meeting to the other.
Was very interesting and they took up many good points. Economy, Global Warming, Television Manipulation and so on...
..or maybe it's not released yet?
