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Fake lives and sound quality

kada
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 20:35
Hi guys. I dont know if this the right forum to post this topic but there goes...
I 've seen some lives and the most of all are really (REEEEAALLY) fake (just PLAY and LET GO).
But some people that i talk say they like lives because the sound are always better, cause it comes direct from the computer with a cool interface ,24bits...etc
Is this really true? I dont think the lives usually sounds better (in fact,some tracks there aren mastered yet too). Any opinion ?
Triptocoma
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 21:00
yes this is really true!

with a good quality soundcard it will sound better...
And you said it your self, 24bit compared to 16bit is a difference,
and if the soundcard supports 96khz or higher it's even better....but for a live situation maybe 96khz is to power consuming, depends on the computer.

but suppose that you dont play live and only do a dj set in traktor, you still got a better quality playing from the computer.

Anyway i bet some people with experience will tell you how it works
Mike A
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 21:08
I doubt you can hear the difference between 16 & 24.
Usually lives (real lives) sound worse, because the mixing is done live, and not in studio conditions. Tracks are not mastered as well..
Threshold
Threshold Productions

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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 21:20
Quote:

On 2004-04-15 21:08, Mike A wrote:
I doubt you can hear the difference between 16 & 24.



Mike,
I've had a lot of different soundcards in my life and I can assure you, there's a HUGE difference in soundquality between a 16 and a 24 bit D/A.

It really improves the dynamics, the clearness of the sound and the overall soundquality.

And now over to something completely different. There's a great sequencer/audiotool called Ableton Live that automaticly beatsyncs loops, adds realtime fx and lots more. Many artist have started using it both for composing and live purposes.

http://www.ableton.com          Threshold Productions
www.thresholdproduction.se
www.soundcloud.com/thresholdproductions
Triptocoma
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 21:30
Ohh and about
"(in fact,some tracks there aren mastered yet too)"

Many psytrance artists are very technical oriented and to be honest most of them does a very good pre-mastering job, i have even seen a whole album get ruined by the time it passed the mastering engineer, dont even know if the dude was one, so it all depends...

notice i did not say that a mastering engineer is a waste of time, no they often got great skills and make a damn good work! but you can do lots of voodoo magic your self..





Francis604


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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 21:56
yes its true for sure that a dat live will sound better as there have been some mastering ....

but still i dont know on what sound systeme your playing but i have played on the best sound system as the crapiest one and i can tell you that when you face crapy one you dam feel great to be able to give a specific eqing on the bass and kickdrum !
Mike A
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Posted : Apr 15, 2004 22:46
Threshold, if you take the processing into consideration, then yes
spliffnik
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Posted : Apr 17, 2004 00:32
some artists, such as bamboo Forest, don't DJ and only do live sets, because they don't like the sound of cds.

I do think live sets pack more of a punch and sound crystal clear.
stompa


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Posted : Apr 17, 2004 01:50
Live isnt about a soundcard, its that xtra feeling that the producer creates from the original sound. Mixing,bending sqeessing,twisting. :NOT just not programming.
Francis604


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Posted : Apr 17, 2004 08:26
dosent like the sound of cd's

thats so pathetik and useless statement...

Trip-
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Apr 17, 2004 13:48
folks,
obviously you don´t expect to hear the little sound changes on a live PA.
So as for me, all this better sound ´quality´ issue is irrelevant.           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
AgalactiA
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