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Psy_Clone
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Posted : Mar 13, 2009 13:34:18
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Well i was going through the facebook
today and than it hit me, the facebook
killed what we used to call the underground parties.
I mean the most of productions today have a group on facebook
(small and big productions) and i asked myself
is it all about the money? of course every pro' wants to make money and its perfectly understood (i dont realy expect people to lose money for a party), but it looks like today it is only for the money, making the blue people easier life finding the parties.
Im not criticizing anyone just open a discussion for all party organizers out there,
wont it will be fun to go back a year back? to the sms's? and to a true underground which 4 me was the best about this scene.
Just thoughts after last cursed purim.....
peace 
  Now say the magic words: Bleep Bleep Deep Deep Wham..... |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Mar 14, 2009 08:57
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Avivz
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Posted : Mar 14, 2009 15:06
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well I think that the facebook tool is useful, just like sending a text message just free and easy to use, you can't stay with the 'old days' ways forever... evolve... just try not to spread the information to everyone and try to keep it in the underground groups.. as I see many productions that use facebook and still able to produce nice parties.. |
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Psy_Clone
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Posted : Mar 14, 2009 17:08
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Evolution is good, and using the facebook
for free masseges is also fine but did you know
that when u open a group on the facebook you have an option
to choose it will be a secret group? which means no one who is not
a member of this group (you can only get invited) can see anything about this group. You cant even know
that this gruop exists cause it doesn't appear anywhere. Now dont you think this will be more underground?
and still producers choose to open regular groups that
anyone on the facebook can see its content.
My point is that even this days you can be underground and productions choose not to be=choose more money.
Now say the magic words: Bleep Bleep Deep Deep Wham..... |
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goaren
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Posted : Mar 14, 2009 19:31
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im with psyclone here... seems as its all about the money - if these pro's wouldt want to get exposed to the wide public they would have taken measures... even in facebook (hell one of the biggest productions doesnt advertise anywhere about anything - just sms and emails to members...) |
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liluY
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Posted : Mar 16, 2009 10:03
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On 2009-03-14 19:31, goaren wrote:
im with psyclone here... seems as its all about the money - if these pro's wouldt want to get exposed to the wide public they would have taken measures... even in facebook (hell one of the biggest productions doesnt advertise anywhere about anything - just sms and emails to members...)
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yeah, but if I'm getting which pro you're talking about, they still have gotten so famous that everyone knows about them, everyone knows their name and everyone comes to their parties. They are also not totally ammune to the facebook thing - they don't have a group but the organisers have profile pages, and their friends have profile pages where they write the pro's name and write about ticket sales in their status updates - many of the profiles are public so anyone can see and get in contact. I heard they tried to filter through looking at people's facebook pages, but come on, that is hardly good judgement is it...
It's not just facebook. Facebook is just a symptom. It's a general shift in attitude... there are still a few, but just a few, excellent, long time pro's that are very hard to reach if you're not in the inner circle, and they keep going strong. What's their secret? their message, vibe and style haven't changed. If you decide you cater to small special intimate parties of a few hundred people than you CAN stick to it; if you decide you wanna cater to 5000, well than you will bring 5000. It's this obsession with looking foreign, making "europe" style festivals; but we are not europe, we do not have europe's size and 5000 people out of 7 million is not like 10,000 people out of the whole continent, it's a much bigger cross section of the population and then the style changes to fit the crowd. Why must we be europe? why can't we just be israel?
Everyone is going big, everything is a festival. The alternative is really small and lame hat parties, which get publicized openly to bring people so they can compete with the big pro's and stay afloat, with a mixed crowd. There is hardly anything in between. But why all these festivals? why so many? in Europe they have but a few each summer, and for the most of us, we would go to one, maybe too in the whole season... so why must every production, even if they make parties every 2 months, pull a huge 3000-5000 people event each time, that gets bigger with each event? it's not just going back underground, it's going back to the simple, pure essence of the gatherings and getting back the intimate feeling. It's not the cops I mind, it's the vibe change that bugs me.
What psylady37 wrote in the moksha review is very much to the point on this matter...
more burekas than famous |
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Psy_Clone
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Posted : Mar 16, 2009 21:04
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yeah, but if I'm getting which pro you're talking about, they still have gotten so famous that everyone knows about them, everyone knows their name and everyone comes to their parties.
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Thats almost 100% true cause believe me when they want
they have a party which is small and only for freind and no one
that doesnt need to know dont know 
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It's not the cops I mind, it's the vibe change that bugs me.
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Thats the actual reason why i started this post,
somthing is just missing and all that you wrote is true.
Now say the magic words: Bleep Bleep Deep Deep Wham..... |
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liluY
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Posted : Mar 16, 2009 23:35
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there are many voices repeating this, especially after the last Purim. I think everyone is feeling it.
So time for change, right?
How do we resurrect the spirit of psytrance?
more burekas than famous |
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goaren
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Posted : Mar 17, 2009 10:11
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i think that its more a choice of being grandious and making everyone say thats its the best and biggest party theyve been at... right now the best option is to hand pick your parties and once in a while going to a big one where the lineup makes it a "must". i hope itll change but i find it hard to believe, its a mental switch the production has to go through and it seems as if the productions that were mentioned dont want to go through that switch... so i guess its time for others to rise...
and dont get me wrong - like both of you said here its not the cops, but lack of vibe which have got all of this going on... at least for me |
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