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Fabfilter or Sonnox eq,comp?
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 21, 2011 12:14
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 21, 2011 14:00
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My 2 cents - it doesn't matter.
People here are around 50-50 for either.
It's not like you will play at a gig and then some guy in the audience will go "oh wtf! he used sonnox and not fabfilter! i'm going home!".
Both are great plugins, and both will work.
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Nickberber
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Posted : Jan 21, 2011 15:51
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Does the sonnox Eq or Comp need I lok Key? |
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 21, 2011 17:41
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On 2011-01-21 14:00, Mike A wrote:
My 2 cents - it doesn't matter.
People here are around 50-50 for either.
It's not like you will play at a gig and then some guy in the audience will go "oh wtf! he used sonnox and not fabfilter! i'm going home!".
Both are great plugins, and both will work.
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yes agree it s really interface and workflow that make a eq my go to eq ,then some can have hp/lp filter or shelves more suited for some stuff but these 2 eq are very flexible. just what piss me off with the sonnox is the limited frequency range for the bands,very bad workflow choice.. at least for me and if i remmeber on the pro Q you can have all bands beeing bells shelvs or hp/lp , very flexible to make pultec curves or more creative stuff + it have unlimited bands if i m right . |
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makus
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Posted : Jan 23, 2011 01:43
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I just run a quick A/B testing with Sonnox Eq, FabFilter Pro-Q and UAD Cambridge eq. Fabfilter sounded kinda different from other 2. And to me, Pro-Q sounds most pleasant. Sonnox and Cambridge are harsher.
Another interesting observation is that Cambridge and Sonnox sound the same. And I mean identical - they cancel out each other if one of them is reversed phase. Nice 
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magner
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Posted : Jan 23, 2011 06:35
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fabfilter plugs are great, i mean really great, and so are sonnox, so if you afford get them both you wont regret it |
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 23, 2011 16:04
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On 2011-01-23 01:43, makus wrote:
I just run a quick A/B testing with Sonnox Eq, FabFilter Pro-Q and UAD Cambridge eq. Fabfilter sounded kinda different from other 2. And to me, Pro-Q sounds most pleasant. Sonnox and Cambridge are harsher.
Another interesting observation is that Cambridge and Sonnox sound the same. And I mean identical - they cancel out each other if one of them is reversed phase. Nice
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and you will find some freeware sound identical to them too cause they have nothing special like most digital eq ,surpring the pro Q sound different and i doubt it tbh. have you matched them with numbers ? some eq for 1 db dont boost 1 db and same for the Q value but when matching the curves they sound identical , there is a free plug that can help for this, vst plugin analizer. companies use different cool gui sell different eq... but in fact they sound identical. guys dont even notice it ,it s funny when it should be all about hearing ,brain and eyes fool ppl in audio industrie so easy. |
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makus
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Posted : Jan 24, 2011 15:35
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On 2011-01-23 01:43, makus wrote:
I just run a quick A/B testing with Sonnox Eq, FabFilter Pro-Q and UAD Cambridge eq. Fabfilter sounded kinda different from other 2. And to me, Pro-Q sounds most pleasant. Sonnox and Cambridge are harsher.
Another interesting observation is that Cambridge and Sonnox sound the same. And I mean identical - they cancel out each other if one of them is reversed phase. Nice
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and you will find some freeware sound identical to them too cause they have nothing special like most digital eq ,surpring the pro Q sound different and i doubt it tbh. have you matched them with numbers ? some eq for 1 db dont boost 1 db and same for the Q value but when matching the curves they sound identical , there is a free plug that can help for this, vst plugin analizer. companies use different cool gui sell different eq... but in fact they sound identical. guys dont even notice it ,it s funny when it should be all about hearing ,brain and eyes fool ppl in audio industrie so easy.
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did you A/B them personally to claim they are all identical?
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makus
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Posted : Jan 24, 2011 15:36
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On 2011-01-23 16:04, PoM wrote:
eyes fool ppl in audio industrie so easy.
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i did a blind test 
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 24, 2011 15:57
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On 2011-01-23 16:04, PoM wrote:
eyes fool ppl in audio industrie so easy.
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i did a blind test
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was not talking about you , but it s like that for everyhting..placebo is king in audio and plugin equalizer is a big prouf of that.
i didnt try to null them with pro Q but i think it s a constant Q thing, some eq the more you boost or cut the more the q get narrow but it can still be matched with a constant q using 2 bands.
with the eqs i tried i conclued the interface and workflow is far more important than how the eq sound (for clean minimum phase eq),they all sound so close that it s the interface and workflow on the eq that lead to better equing and sound for me. |
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makus
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Posted : Jan 24, 2011 16:18
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sorry, can't agree with you. there are many plugins which do sound different, and placebo doesn't have any place there. good example is Pultec-Pro EQ on UAD. i never met any other plugin which sound that warm yet (i'm not claiming Pultec is "the best" in some way, it just sounds really well and analogishto me.)
and phase revese is a good trick to see the difference in the processing. i insist you do that yourself, analyze what you hear and then come back here and tell me again that all eqs are the same.
aren't all subractor VST synths sound the same to you also?
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 24, 2011 16:20
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agree with you there but it s not a good example cause i m talking about clean minimum phase eq there like the sonnox, cambridge and your daw stock eqs.(but many emulations are just clean eq with a nice interfacethey get in this categorie too)
the massive passive for example you can t null it for sure with other eq, but it s not a clean one, soneq it s the same, pultecs too.
if some want to read more about this it have been discussed on gearslutz here
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/330874-digital-eq-fact-myth.html |
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 24, 2011 16:52
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try to null the uad neve eqs, ssl or harrison ,waves stuff, urs..you may be surprised or not (maybe they can null with your daw stock eqs and some freeware stuff)sometimes it s tricky to set the curve the same the vst plugin analyzer can really help there(some eq can have a roll off in the highs for example). if you check the gearlsutz thread i think they tried lot of plugins. |
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 30, 2011 01:30
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I personally use Voxengeo GlissEQ. It's great,and much cheaper (if that's a consideration).
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golem
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Posted : Mar 4, 2011 01:55
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I use mostly linear phase EQ when I need to process bass frequencies in basstrack. I think that this will preserve more dynamics / energy in the bass track.
I once did a test with 6-8 EQ:s (Waves EQ, REQ, Sonnox, GlissEQ, CurveEQ, Waves LinEQ, ElectriQ and I don't remember what else), I did same boost or cuts and noticed that there was a huge difference between the linear phase (CurveEQ, LinEQ) and other EQs. I looked the equalization results with exoscope and equalizing with any other EQ frequencies between 20-150 created some kind of shift to the waveform so that + side peak was much quieter than + side peak (but it was not DC-offset, I checked it). What this does is that it leaves less dynamics for bass than if you have a waveform which has equal db peaks in both sides.
Check it out, I bet that you will see it too. although I am not sure if this is of any significance or not
http://www.soundcloud.com/dreaml4nd
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