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Eyes Wide Shut...So much for spirit liberating music,huh?

other_reality
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Posted : Jul 20, 2006 18:31

Ok, I know, politics is not what this forum is about. But then again, I can't help watching posts filled with anger and hate, rage and fury.
Starting with the whole "macedonia" thing, I see people trying to label themselves something, just to boost some egos and make them feel some "power" inside. Some Yugoslav's call themselves macedonian, some greeks say "no, you can't say that" and off we go, you are less than me, you are stupid, and so on...Take a deeper look, and try to see what's the truth. The flags, the boundaries, it's all coming from the lust for power and discrimination between people. NO ONE is less or better than ANY ONE. I happen to be Greek, and I also happen to know some stuff about history. I know where Macedonia is, I know where Alexander the Great was from. He was a butcher though, and I don't really feel so proud about it. Ask some Germans about Hitler...Names are names, facts are facts, but where does all these lead us to ? Hate, war, racism and discrimination. So much for PLUR and PEACE, huh? Trance is about global and human ethics, Trance is about understanding and love. Where is it?
And the forum...Well, that's a bigger issue. It is from Israel. I don't have a problem with Jews. I don't have a problem with Lebanese either. But there is a war. People are getting killed. Innocent people who will never understand why. And I had a look on the Israeli section, where bad vibes, hatred and disgust is all around. If some people thought trance is about peace, harmonic symbiosis of cultures through spirit liberation and dance, and check out all these posts, I'm sure they'll change their minds. So, is locking topics cause its "politics" the right thing to do ?
It's like hiding your head in the ground, and make it dissapear. Well, it won't. Not like that. If you all "nationally proud" out there realise the truth, and get rid off the dogmatic bullshit some arrogant governments suppress you with, then it will start to dissapear. PLUR will have a meaning. BOOM will happen. PEACE will come. Not on your T-Shirts or all over your signatures in a forum, but as a reality. Jews, Arabs, Greeks and all people in the biggest dancefloor there is...Stop hating each other. Disarm your brains first.           Bring yourselves into the light

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psygeorge


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Posted : Jul 20, 2006 18:56
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DETOX
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Posted : Jul 20, 2006 19:55
All i want is peace in the Middle East...



...oh and a blowjob.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Psy_mystic
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Posted : Jul 21, 2006 00:24
I was reading some posts in the israeli section and some of them were just disgusting... i agree 150& with what u said above,it seems that we never learn and we need a 3rd World War to actually "realise" how stupid we are as a species...
Go on Isr**l !!kill more dangerous children !u have to protect your selfs from those blood thirsty kids while we sit and watch ....
WAKE UP!!WE ARE BEING FCUKED UP THE A AND WE KEEP SMILING!!
bye

ps.detox you are so funny!wow

          "Detox is for queers"
:august:


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Posted : Jul 21, 2006 00:36
which reminds me of a previous topic saying something about parties and messages... and it has a lot to do with it. you see, every person builds his own image of how stuff works. and unfortunately or fortunately not all people seek to find the same things... so you'll find that many don't believe in PLUR. not just that, they'll laugh at anyone who thinks that way because it's "old" and "cliche" or whatever. and to many strong egos are walking around trying to suck all the positive energy they find giving nothing in return... what i wanna say is, if you believe there is a connection between psytrance music and something devine, something spiritual, than that's how you act and feel. otherwise it's just another music style which sells cd's and tickets for events and has fans with no particular orientation other than to have fun on the weekend. it's not the same thing for everybody, and therefore i believe violent reactions and bad attitude are common sights which are sadly not surprising...
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jul 21, 2006 17:52
...there is a perfect place for a dreamer,
the dreamland of utopia,
where everything begins with love and finaly ends with love again....

surely this place is not up on earth,humans never be better,just only worse year by year,because they dont want it,they like to rule others just to satisfy their egos,egos are the demons, those demons rules the true self of everyone,so it is not ur true self that wants to kill someone else but it is the killer ego demon inside u ,and u r a slave of this ego demon ,weak to control ego's will.... ....only a very few people usually spiritual persons who meditate or do psychological work up to their selves are able to have a small percent of control up to their true selves,because they have awakened a small percent of their conciousnes and see things more clear,because each second that passes are observing their actions just to see their egos and kill them on by one...each time u kill an ego demon,u take back the lost energy that was kept on demon's will,and then awake lit bit more conciousnes ...
Anyway what I am trying to say is that all those bad things that happens,all those negativity ,war,kills....happens cause of ego demons who rule our true selves,so if we all start to do psychological work up on our selves,or medidation, just to find our egos,kill them one by one and act more conciously ,then everything will became a lit bit more better for all of us....egos seperates people between them,and dont let the union to happen...
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Meditation,psychological work,ego blasting,with love are the keys for a better world,and trance music could give us those 4 things we need...
WE MUST make a revelation through our inner self,and forget all those egoistic demonic habbits that maken us slaves of our sensetions,A REVELATION OF CONCIOUSNES....
A SPIRITUAL REVELATION....
dont give up my friend other reality,u know me and I know u,and we know well I think...keep faith...
Music have the keys ...be active...and dance dance to blast ur ego...use the psychological whip through the sound and ur dance moves...to HIT N KILL all those ego demons... as the mind is altering,and feel the union...the love...the oneness...
everything is hidden inside the deep ocean of psychedelia,dive swim and find it....
when ur in atrance state u are able to do what ever u want deep inside ur inner self,ur true self,ur deeper self...
P.L.U.R. !!!
          ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
other_reality
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Posted : Jul 21, 2006 18:48
:august: I realise what you say and I understand that a commercial music genre is just that. But the "trance" term is not only musical. Trance is a state of mind, so broad as a term by itself, it could never "fit" as a music label alone. What I say is, that we live on a period that the "power" consiousness is so overwhelming, that we tend to abuse sacred things like music and spirit, and fit them to our modern needs, which are greed, lust for power, fame and vanity.
I've been watching and experiencing the trance culture for almost over a decade, and I can now see clearly what is going on, and where. Waves and waves, cycles if you like, similar to those descibed by Buddhists or the Mayas, leave their mark on the evolution of trance music. The awakening has already happened. We lived it, and we are greatfull for this. Then came the blooming. Afterwards, and still happening, is the fall to darkness. It is more like what happened in the 60's, but things happened too fast this time. This is normal, if you take a look around you. Everything is moving very fast now, and the acceleration is becoming stronger. So, darkness is where we sit right now. But for how long, I don't know. All I know is that we are all affected by it, and we must get rid of it if we need to be happy and joyfull when we gather at a party again. It's all there if you take a look. When did the "dark trance" genre came out, and how come it is 90% of what we are listening to at parties right now. (Other than the usual and boring piu-piu that is).
Music is showing us exactly where we're at. And I just hope we can go back at the blooming "age" again. You think that the music and vibes just "happen". Or many of you may laugh at some "deeply mysterious crap" that some people believe in. All of it maybe not true, in the sense of exact "raw" data compatible with our modern reality, yes. But it is merely symbolic. Representing our deeper emotions and understanding, in a way that each of us perceives differently, still though, clearly.
So, I can see what Gopendra is saying. I know what he is talking about, because I've lived it, and it so true. Maybe I haven't killed some alive demon inside me, but I know that I got rid of many negativities from within myself. And I still have to try and get rid off some more. That's what we should all do, I guess. You can never raise a war based in an "age" of universal ethics. Once people understand this, negativity will just go away. It won't have a place to belong to. Or the demons, if you like, Gopendra

Oh, and...Detox wants a blowjob
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jul 21, 2006 19:32
ok dont take it as a demon ,take it only as an ego,and ego is a positive or a negative thing in ur character ?
I suppose a negative,so negativity, ego, demon, is the same,so we agree
universal ethics is something very good to do but how?
isnt a lit bit impossible to happen?
Bush acts according to the laws against terrorism,wich are serving the human rights,and the human rights are based in universall ethics(pias to avgo kai koyrefto dhladh),and all those things are politics...
Trying to find the negative parts of ur character each second u breath and act in life conciously,is more possible I thing,that wot I mean psychological work.
After the revelation of conciousnes that we ar gonna do in our selves personnaly each one of us,without any psychologist tell us what to do,only our conciousnes,and realise ,and wake up to see that universal crime,be sure that we would all find the strength to do the political revelation against all those bushes,and blers and all that crapy animal humans...
and again through trance culture and rave society if all those milions of ravers raise up our fist for revelation all these wild youth crazy ravers...,be sure that all those negative ego demonic bastards would run to hide...



          ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
Thanasonic
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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 15:56
Peace !

I was in the so called macedonia for more than 3 times.Hope this thing will last here.

Yours,
Thanasonic
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